Peluru Kendali Korea Utara dan Star Wars

[nospamy]

Menurut bekas bos CIA Tenet di kongres AS, peluru kendali 2 tingkat Korea Utara bisa mencapai Alaska, Canada dan pipa minyak yang penting bagi AS.
Waktu uji coba roket 2 tingkat beberapa tahun yang lalu bisa melampaui wilayah Jepang dan jatuh di samudra Pasifik.

Sekarang AS ketakutan akan uji coba roket 3 tingkat baru dari Korea yang bisa mencapai kota-kota besar di AS dan membawa bom nuklir besar.
Tetapi ada analis AS yang bilang peluru kendali Korea bisa ditangkal dengan program anti peluru kendali memakai Star Wars / laser / roket lain.

Korea Utara membantah peluru kendali ini membawa bom nuklir / ditujukan ke AS. Kata mereka cuma uji coba peluncuran satelit.

Apakah benar roket 3 tingkat bisa mencapai daratan AS?
Apakah sistem pertahanan anti peluru kendali AS bisa berfungsi?

[Uber 1337]

nembaknya dari nortkorea kan? trlalu jauh... uda kilangan elemen of surpraisnya. palingan bakal ditembak duluan sebelom ngenain target...

[nospamy]

http://www.inesap.org/bulletin16/bul16art10.htm

Jarak Korea ke kota-kota di AS kira-kira 6000 KM / 3600 miles.

Kalau kecepatan roket Taepodong 2 sekitar 4 Km/detik - 5 Km/detik.
Jadi sekitar 240 Km/menit sampai 300 Km/menit.

Kalau 240 Km/menit, maka butuh waktu:

6000 / 240 = 25 menit

Kalau 300 Km/menit, maka butuh waktu:

6000 / 300 = 20 menit.

Apakah ada cukup waktu untuk menangkal rudal dalam waktu 20 menit?
Apakah bisa akurat tembakannya?

Dari 10 kali percobaan sistem pertahanan, 5 kali berhasil, terakhir tahun 2001 dan 2002. Setelah itu gagal terus sampai 2006. Juga test itu bukan test sebenarnya karena arah rudal, rute sudah diketahui.

Bagaimana kalau ujung roket dirancang memisahkan diri jadi beberapa hulu ledak nuklir terpisah saat menurun kembali ke permukaan bumi?

Apakah sistem pertahanan rudal bisa mengatasi hal ini?

[dipengrey]

wew pake star wars..... uhuyyy kerennnnnn bisa ada darth vader.... ciung2

[dragunova]

6000 km cuma nyampe alaska. tp ngapain juga nyerang amerika - nyari mati apa?
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41790000/gif/_41790682_north_korea416x309.gif
animasi sistem anti rudal usa (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/americas/2001/us_missile_defence/default.stm)

[Gavroche]

kalo emang nuklir, dan konsep MAD masih berlaku, gue rasa korut cuma menggunakan itu sbg leverage dia dalam nego dg AS dan sekutunya. buktinya kata dubes mereka di PBB, korut bersedia ngajak nego lagi kan.

Russia summons North Korea's ambassador
By BURT HERMAN, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 18 minutes ago



SEOUL, South Korea - Russia summoned North Korea's ambassador Thursday to express alarm that Pyongyang could launch a long-range missile, and the isolated nation's other major ally, China, issued its strongest statement of concern to date over the standoff.


South Korea played down the growing tensions, saying a missile firing was not imminent, although the U.S. national security adviser said launch preparations were "very far along."

In an unusual step, Russia's Foreign Ministry called in North Korean Ambassador Pak Ui Chun to say it was alarmed by reports of the planned launch and warn him of Moscow's opposition to any steps that would destabilize the region.

"In particular, the undesirability was stressed of any actions which could negatively affect regional stability and complicate the search for a settlement to the Korean peninsula's nuclear problem," a ministry statement said.

At a regular briefing in Beijing, Jiang Yu, a Chinese Foreign Ministry official, said, "We are very concerned about the current situation. ... We hope all parties can do more in the interest of regional peace and stability."

Worries over a possible North Korean launch have grown in recent weeks after reports of activity at the country's launch site on its northeastern coast where U.S. officials say a Taepodong-2 missile — believed capable of reaching parts of the United States — is possibly being fueled.

Japan and the United States have issued strong statements of concern and have sent ships and planes to monitor the communist nation.

South Korean Defense Minister Yoon Kwang-ung said that, "It is our judgment that a launch is not imminent."

But if the North fires a missile toward South Korean territories, combined U.S. and South Korean forces will be "ready to intercept it immediately," Yoon told a parliamentary meeting.

Seoul has sat for years in the cross hairs of hundreds of North Korean missiles and artillery, and it fears that increased tension could roil its economy.

When asked about South Korea's assessment, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said, "We're watching it very carefully and preparations are very far along."

"So you could, from a capability standpoint, have a launch," Hadley said. "Now what they intend to do — which is what a lot of people are trying to read — of course we don't know. What we hope they will do is give it up and not launch."

A top Pentagon official said that a launch would be "a provocation and a dangerous action" that would lead to the United States imposing "some cost" on North Korea.

Peter Rodman, assistant secretary of defense for international security policy, told a House Armed Services Committee hearing that he did not know if such a launch would happen. If it did, Rodman said the Bush administration would take some, unspecified action.

Washington is weighing responses to a potential test that could include trying to shoot down the missile, U.S. officials have said.

The U.S. has urged China, which sends an unknown amount of food aid to the North and is its No. 1 trade partner, to press the North to back down on its potential missile test. President Bush has praised Beijing for "taking responsibility in dealing with North Korea."

Jiang said China would "continue to make constructive efforts."

The North's test of a long-range missile in 1998 shocked Japan and prompted it to accelerate work with Washington on a joint missile defense system.

The communist nation has been under a self-imposed moratorium on long-range missile tests since 1999, when its relations with the United States were relatively friendly. However, it has since test-fired short-range missiles many times, including two in March.

There are diverging expert opinions on whether fueling would mean a launch was imminent — due to the highly corrosive nature of the fuel — or whether the North could wait a month or more.

A North Korean diplomat said in reported comments Wednesday that the country wanted to engage in talks with Washington over its concerns of a possible missile test. The Bush administration rejected the overture, saying threats aren't the way to seek dialogue.

The U.S. instead called on North Korea to return to six-nation talks on its nuclear program.

U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton said he was talking with Security Council members on possible action.

The North agreed at talks in September to abandon its nuclear program in exchange for security guarantees and aid, but no progress has been made on implementing the accord.

North Korea has complained repeatedly in recent weeks about alleged U.S. spy flights, including off the coast where the missile test facility is located.

"The ceaseless illegal intrusion of the planes has created a grave danger of military conflict in the air above the region," the official Korean Central News Agency said.

The U.S. has sent ships off the Korean coast capable of detecting and tracking a missile launch, a Pentagon official said. South Korean aircraft have also been flying reconnaissance over the waters between the Korean Peninsula and Japan, said the military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the subject.

Japan said it, too, had sent naval ships and patrol planes to monitor the developments.

The North has claimed to have a nuclear weapon, but isn't thought to have an advanced design that could be placed on a warhead.

Japanese police were preparing for a "worst-case scenario," including the possibility that parts of a missile could fall on Japan, said Iwao Uruma, commissioner general of the National Police Agency.

About 1,000 people, including army veterans and activists, staged an anti-North Korea rally in Seoul, condemning the missile threat.

The two Koreas remain technically at war since the 1950-53 Korean War ended in a cease-fire, not a peace treaty.

___

Associated Press reporters Gillian Wong in Beijing and Mari Yamaguchi in Tokyo contributed to this report.

ga segitu gampangnya lah main nembakin rudal, para tetangga aja udah gelisah begitu.

[skinner04]

Sekarang AS ketakutan akan uji coba roket 3 tingkat baru dari Korea yang bisa mencapai kota-kota besar di AS dan membawa bom nuklir besar.
Tetapi ada analis AS yang bilang peluru kendali Korea bisa ditangkal dengan program anti peluru kendali memakai Star Wars / laser / roket lain.


masalahnya apa proyek star wars itu masih jalan??? seinget gw proyek ini cuma diangkat pas jaman Reagan doang.....


kalo emang nuklir, dan konsep MAD masih berlaku, gue rasa korut cuma menggunakan itu sbg leverage dia dalam nego dg AS dan sekutunya. buktinya kata dubes mereka di PBB, korut bersedia ngajak nego lagi kan.


emang kenyataannya fungsi senjata nuklir semenjak masa perang dingin sampe sekarang juga cuma buat naikin bargaining position suatu negara aja kan???

gw jadi inget ucapannya Ahmadinejad yang artinya kira-kira: kami tak akan membuat senjata yang proses penelitian dan pembuatannya mahal, perawatannya tak kalah mahal, tetapi secara nyata tak akan pernah kami gunakan

keliatan kan kalo fungsi nyata senjata nuklir sekarang ini gak lebih buat naikin posisi tawar aja???

[Hiram]

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/news99/missile061599.gif

Attachment :
~ NMD Concept of Operations

[Gavroche]

masalahnya apa proyek star wars itu masih jalan??? seinget gw proyek ini cuma diangkat pas jaman Reagan doang.....



emang kenyataannya fungsi senjata nuklir semenjak masa perang dingin sampe sekarang juga cuma buat naikin bargaining position suatu negara aja kan???

gw jadi inget ucapannya Ahmadinejad yang artinya kira-kira: kami tak akan membuat senjata yang proses penelitian dan pembuatannya mahal, perawatannya tak kalah mahal, tetapi secara nyata tak akan pernah kami gunakan

keliatan kan kalo fungsi nyata senjata nuklir sekarang ini gak lebih buat naikin posisi tawar aja???

iya. tapi...... itu dibuat dg syarat tertentu, which is every states itu considered bisa berlaku rasional dg mikirin akibat kalo dia eventually memakai nuklirnya.

yg jadi masalah adalah kalo ada salah satu rogue state yg udah ga bisa berlaku rasional dan ga mikir akibatnya for the sake of its national interest.

so far sih...belum ada negara yg "nekat" kayak gitu, walo ada yg punya potensi.

[skinner04]

yup!!!!! Asumsinya setiap negara emang harus rasional.... baru apa yang gw bilang berlaku... thx 4 da point.....

tapi yang kemudian jadi masalah gimana kalo yang punya bukan negara tapi aktor lain yang punya kepentingan atas keamanan global.... teroris misalnya.... rasionalitas mereka mungkin harus dipertanyakan.... bisa jadi mereka akan rasional dengan memfungsikan senjata nuklir seperti negara yang bersenjata nuklir.... atau mereka benar-benar pake nuklir buat senjata.... sampe sini gw jadi mikir seharusnya US konsen aja ke masalah terorisme daripada ke masalah kepemilikan senjata nuklir ataupun WMD lain oleh negara.....

[BlackenedWing]

Wadooh, Jogja bisa kena tuh. Ngungsi kemana neehhhhh ?

[rooivalk]

ngungsi ke pyongyang aja, gak bakal kena

[jebret]

tentara penjaga perbatasan korut pada bingung kali, melihat orang2 manjat pagar mau masuk ke korut. biasanya kan mereka nembakin orang yang mau keluar, bukan mau masuk.