Bermuda Triangle [Arsip] - Forum KG

Luagefak Stalker

01-07-2002, 04:52 PM

Bermuda Triangle, region of the western Atlantic Ocean that has become associated in the popular imagination with mysterious maritime disasters. Also known as the Devil's Triangle, the triangle-shaped area covers about 1,140,000 sq km (about 440,000 sq mi) between the island of Bermuda, the coast of southern Florida, and Puerto Rico.

The sinister reputation of the Bermuda Triangle may be traceable to reports made in the late 15th century by navigator Christopher Columbus concerning the Sargasso Sea, in which floating masses of gulfweed were regarded as uncanny and perilous by early sailors; others date the notoriety of the area to the mid-19th century, when a number of reports were made of unexplained disappearances and mysteriously abandoned ships. The earliest recorded disappearance of a United States vessel in the area occurred in March 1918, when the USS Cyclops vanished.

The incident that consolidated the reputation of the Bermuda Triangle was the disappearance in December 1945 of Flight 19, a training squadron of five U.S. Navy torpedo bombers. The squadron left Fort Lauderdale, Florida, with 14 crewmen and disappeared after radioing a series of distress messages; a seaplane sent in search of the squadron also disappeared. Aircraft that have disappeared in the area since this incident include a DC-3 carrying 27 passengers in 1948 and a C-124 Globemaster with 53 passengers in 1951. Among the ships that have disappeared was the tankership Marine Sulphur Queen, which vanished with 39 men aboard in 1963.

Books, articles, and television broadcasts investigating the Bermuda Triangle emphasize that, in the case of most of the disappearances, the weather was favorable, the disappearances occurred in daylight after a sudden break in radio contact, and the vessels vanished without a trace. However, skeptics point out that many supposed mysteries result from careless or biased consideration of data. For example, some losses attributed to the Bermuda Triangle actually occurred outside the area of the triangle in inclement weather conditions or in darkness, and some can be traced to known mechanical problems or inadequate equipment. In the case of Flight 19, for example, the squadron commander was relatively inexperienced, a compass was faulty, the squadron failed to follow instructions, and the aircraft were operating under conditions of deteriorating weather and visibility and with a low fuel supply. Other proposed explanations for disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle include the action of physical forces unknown to science, a “hole in the sky,” an unusual chemical component in the region's seawater, and abduction by extraterrestrial beings.

Scientific evaluations of the Bermuda Triangle have concluded that the number of disappearances in the region is not abnormal and that most of the disappearances have logical explanations. Paranormal associations with the Bermuda Triangle persist in the public mind, however.

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Hamlet

01-07-2002, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by Mephisto

Bukannya kalo di udara itu gak ngepek, cuman arah, bukan sense of gravity yang kepengaruh kan !? Manusia kan punya alat pendeteksi gravitasi sendiri di dalam telinga...

The Demonic Light Warrior™ out...

Ini satu kok engga nyambung yah ::bingung:: ::hhh::

E121F

01-07-2002, 06:08 PM

segitiga bermuda -> jump gates to other dimension?

Hamlet

02-07-2002, 02:51 AM

Itu kan salah satu spekulasi tentang segitiga Bermuda. Ada yang mengatakan itu dikarenakan medan magnet yang besar, ada yang bilang itu pangkalan militer rahasia Amerika Serikat, gate ke dimensi atau dunia lain, wormhole, ataupun dibilang cuma kecelakaan alamiah.

Yang jadi pertanyaan, ada engga sih show yang menunjukkan bukti bahwa manusia pernah menjelajah ke dasar lautnya? ::bentar2:

E121F

02-07-2002, 07:37 AM

iyah
film dokumentasi secara detail tentang segitiga bermuda belum pernah dikasi liat ke public yah? ::bingung::

MightyAbrams

02-07-2002, 10:55 AM

MightyAbrams

02-07-2002, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by Hamlet
Itu kan salah satu spekulasi tentang segitiga Bermuda. Ada yang mengatakan itu dikarenakan medan magnet yang besar, ada yang bilang itu pangkalan militer rahasia Amerika Serikat, gate ke dimensi atau dunia lain, wormhole, ataupun dibilang cuma kecelakaan alamiah.

Yang jadi pertanyaan, ada engga sih show yang menunjukkan bukti bahwa manusia pernah menjelajah ke dasar lautnya? ::bentar2:

Kalo medan magnet, kenapa cuman dikit pesawat ato kapal yg kena? Kan segitiga bermuda tu termasuk rute yg sibuk..
Kalo Pangkalan Militer, masak sejak jaman Columbus Amerika udah ndiriin pangkalan? Indian kali ya yg eksperimen..
Kalo gerbang dimensi, kudu dikurung dgn ketat ama armada laut seluruh manusia.. kali2 aja entar Orcs ato Burning Legion nongol dari sana, dari Draenor :D..
Kalo kecelakaan ilmiah, ketauan yg nyelidikin ni perkara si Kogoro Mouri.. hehehe...

Pokoknya aneh bin ajaib..

E121F

02-07-2002, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by MightyAbrams

Kalo congek-an?
hey hey hey
yang disebut mephisto itu bukan pendeteksi gravitasi
melainkan alat keseimbangan
telinga itu ada organ otolit yang berfungsi sebagai statoreseptor

Pizzaro

02-07-2002, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by E121F

hey hey hey
yang disebut mephisto itu bukan pendeteksi gravitasi
melainkan alat keseimbangan
telinga itu ada organ otolit yang berfungsi sebagai statoreseptor

apaaan sich, koq kayanya saya baru pertama kali baru dengar tuch

bonank

02-07-2002, 01:30 PM

Artikel segitiga bermuda dari majalah Angkasa ...

Tak semua pertanyaan ada jawabannya. Demikian pula dengan sejumlah peristiwa dan fenomena alam di bumi ini. Tak semua (belum) bisa dijelaskan. Mulai edisi ini, Angkasa mencoba mengangkatnya. Menarik untuk diikuti.

Bagi Anda yang gemar kisah misteri, pasti mengenal Segitiga Bermuda. Wilayah laut di selatan Amerika Serikat dengan titik sudut Miami (di Florida), Puerto Rico (Jamaica), dan Bermuda ini, telah berabad-abad menyimpan kisah yang tak terpecahkan. Misteri demi misteri bahkan telah dicatat oleh pengelana samudera macam Christopher Columbus.

Sekitar 1492, ketika dirinya akan mengakhiri perjalanan jauhnya menuju dunia barunya, Amerika, Columbus sempat menyaksikan fenomena aneh di wilayah ini. Di tengah suasana laut yang terasa aneh, jarum kompas di kapalnya beberapa kali berubah-ubah. Padahal cuaca saat itu begitu baik.

Lebih dari itu, tak jauh dari kapal, pada suatu malam tiba-tiba para awaknya dikejutkan dengan munculnya bola-bola api yang terjun begitu saja ke dalam laut. Mereka juga menyaksikan lintasan cahaya dari arah ufuk yang kemudian menghilang begitu saja.

Begitulah Segitiga Bermuda. Di wilayah ini, indera keenam memang seperti dihantui 'suasana' yang tak biasa. Namun begitu rombongan Columbus masih terbilang beruntung, karena hanya disuguhi 'pertunjukkan'. Lain dengan pelintas-pelintas yang lain.

Menurut catatan kebaharian, peristiwa terbesar yang pernah terjadi di wilayah ini adalah lenyapnya sebuah kapal berbendera Inggris, Atalanta, pada 1880. Tanpa jejak secuilpun, kapal yang ditumpangi tiga ratus kadet dan perwira AL Inggris itu raib di sana. Selain Atalanta, Segitiga Bermuda juga telah menelan ratusan kapal lainnya.

Di lain kisah, Segitiga Bermuda juga telah membungkam puluhan pesawat yang melintasinya. Peristiwa terbesar yang kemudian terkuak sekitar 1990 lalu adalah raibnya iring-iringan lima Grumman TBF Avenger AL AS yang tengah berpatroli melintas wilayah laut ini pada siang hari 5 Desember 1945. Setelah sekitar dua jam penerbangan komandan penerbangan melapor, bahwa dirinya dan anak buahnya seperti mengalami disorientasi. Beberapa menit kemudian kelima TBF Avenger ini pun raib tanpa sempat memberi sinyal SOS.

Anehnya, misteri Avenger tak berujung di situ saja. Ketika sebuah pesawat SAR jenis Martin PBM-3 Mariner dikirim mencarinya, pesawat amfibi gembrot dengan tigabelas awak ini pun ikut-ikutan lenyap. Hilang bak ditelan udara. Keesokan harinya ketika wilayah-wilayah laut yang diduga menjadi tempat kecelakaan keenam pesawat disapu enam pesawat penyelamat pantai dengan 27 awak, tak satu pun serpihan pesawat ditemukan. Ajaib.

Tahun demi tahun berlalu. Sekitar 1990, tanpa dinyana seorang peneliti berhasil menemukan onggokan kerangka pesawat di lepas pantai Fort Launderdale, Florida. Betapa terkejutnya orang-orang yang menyaksikan. Karena, ketika dicocok kan, onggokan metal itu ternyata bagian dari kelima TBF Avenger.

bonank

02-07-2002, 01:32 PM

Kisah ajaib lainnya adalah hilangnya pesawat transpor C-119 Flying Boxcar pada 7 Juni 1965. Pesawat tambun mesin ganda milik AU AS bermuatan kargo ini, hari itu pukul 7.47 lepas landas dari Lanud Homestead. Pesawat dengan 10 awak ini terbang menuju Lapangan Terbang Grand Turk, Bahama, dan diharapkan mendarat pukul 11.23.

Pesawat ini sebenarnya hampir menuntaskan perjalanannya. Hal ini diketahui dari kontak radio yang masih terdengar hingga pukul 11. Sesungguhnya memang tak ada yang mencurigakan. Kerusakan teknis juga tak pernah dilaporkan. Tetapi Boxcar tak pernah sampai tujuan.

"Dalam kontak radio terakhir tak ada indikasi apa-apa bahwa pesawat tengah mengalami masalah. Namun setelah itu kami kehilangan jejaknya," begitu ungkap juru bicara Penyelamat Pantai Miami. "Besar kemungkinan pesawat mengalami masalah kendali arah (steering trouble) hingga nyasar ke lain arah," tambahnya.

Seketika itu pula tim SAR terbang menyapu wilayah seluas 100.000 mil persegi yang diduga menjadi tempat kandasnya C-119. Namun hasilnya benar-benar nihil. Sama seperti hilangnya pesawat-pesawat lainnya di wilayah ini, tak satu pun serpihan pesawat atau tubuh manusia ditemukan.

"Benar-benar aneh. Sebuah pesawat terbang ke arah selatan Bahama dan hilang begitu saja tanpa jejak," demikian komentar seorang veteran penerbang Perang Dunia II.

Seseorang dari Tim SAR mengatakan, kemungkinan pesawat jatuh di antara Pulau Crooked dan Grand Turk. Bisa karena masalah struktur, ledakan, atau kerusakan mesin. Kalau memang pesawat meledak, kontak radio memang pasti tak akan pernah terjadi, tetapi seharusnya kami bisa menemukan serpihan pecahannya. Begitu pula jika pesawat mengalami kerusakan, mestinya sang pilot bisa melakukan ditching (pendaratan darurat di atas air). Pasalnya, cuaca saat itu dalam keadaan baik. Dalam arti langit cerah, ombak hanya sekitar satu meter, dan angin hanya 15 knot.

Analisis selanjutnya memang mengembang kemana-mana. Namun tetap tidak menghasilkan apa-apa. Kasus C-119 Flying Boxcar pun terpendam begitu saja, sampai akhirnya pada tahun 1973 terbit artikel dari International UFO Bureau yang mengingatkan kembali sejumlah orang pada kasus ajaib tersebut.

Dalam artikel ini dimuat kesaksian astronot Gemini IV, James McDivitt dan Edward H. White II, yang justru membuat runyam masalah. Rupanya pada saat-saat di sekitar raibnya C-119, dia kebetulan tengah mengamati wilayah di sekitar Karibia. Gemini kebetulan memang sedang mengawang-awang di sana. Menurut catatan NASA, pada 3 sampai 7 Juni 1965 keduanya tengah melakukan eksperimen jalan-jalan ke luar kapsul Gemini dengan perlengkapan yang dirahasiakan.

Menurut Divitt, dia melihat sebuah pesawat tak dikenal (UFO) dengan semacam lengan mekanik kedapatan sedang meluncur di atas Karibia. Beberapa menit kemudian Ed White pun menyaksikan obyek lainnya yang serupa. Sejak itulah lalu merebak isu, C-119 diculik UFO. Para ilmuwan pun segera tertarik menguji kesaksian ini. Tak mau percaya begitu saja, mereka mengkonfirmasi obyek yang dilihat kedua astronot dengan satelit-satelit yang ada disekitar Gemini IV. Boleh jadi 'kan yang mereka salah lihat ? Maklum saat itu (hingga kini pun), banyak pihak masih menilai sektis terhadap kehadiran UFO.

Ketika itu kepada kedua astronot disodori gambar Pegasus 2, satelit raksasa yang memang memiliki antene mirip lengan sepanjang 32 meter dan sejumlah sampah satelit yang ada di sekitar itu. Namun baik dari bentuk dan jarak, mereka menyanggah jika telah salah lihat.

"Sekali lagi saya tegaskan, dengan menyebut UFO 'kan tak berarti saya menunjuk pesawat ruang angkasa dari planet lain. Pengertian UFO sangat universal. Bahwa jika saya melihat pesawat yang menurut penilaian saya tak saya kenal, tidakkah layak jika saya menyebutnya sebagai UFO?" sergah Divitt.

Begitulah kasus C-119 Flying Boxcar yang tak pernah terpecahkan hingga kini. Diantara kapal atau pesawat yang raib di wilayah Segitiga Bermuda kisahnya memang senantiasa sama. Terjadi ketika cuaca sedang baik, tak ada masalah teknis, kontak radio berjalan biasa, tetapi si pelintas tiba-tiba menghilang begitu saja. Tanpa meninggalkan jejak sama sekali.

Banyak teori kemudian dihubung-hubungkan dengan segala kejadian di sana. Ada yang menyebut teori pelengkungan waktu, medan gravitasi terbalik, abrasi atmosfer, dan ada juga teori anomali magnetik-gravitasi. Selain itu ada juga yang mengaitkannya dengan fenomena gampa laut, serangan gelombang tidal, hingga lubang hitam (black-hole) yang hanya terjadi di angkasa luar sana. Aneh-aneh memang analisanya, namun tetap saja tak ada satu pun yang bisa menjelaskannya.

Mephisto

02-07-2002, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by MightyAbrams

Kalo congek-an?

*sigh* biologi dulu dapet berapa ni anak !?
Pesawat kan gak terbang sendiri, kecuali yang barusan ditemukan oleh Amrik... Yang nerbangin kan orang, nah, kalo itu medan magnet, yang kepengaruh navigasi, tapi manusia tetep tau mana atas mana bawah... Trus nabrak apa !? nyosor ke laut ya gak mungkin, kecuali kadar alkohol si pilot di atas normal...
*walks out of thread to escape from the wrath of st00pidity*

The Demonic Light Warrior™ out...

Windy Reed

02-07-2002, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by E121F
iyah
film dokumentasi secara detail tentang segitiga bermuda belum pernah dikasi liat ke public yah? ::bingung::
ada hal istimewa nggak soal laut disana yang bisa bikin orang meneliti ? selain urusan misteri segitiga bermuda

E121F

02-07-2002, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Pizzaro

apaaan sich, koq kayanya saya baru pertama kali baru dengar tuch
weleh, pernah belajar biologi tentang indra pendengaran secara mendalam nggak?
kalo pernah, berarti loe ngerjain gue ::devil::

MightyAbrams

03-07-2002, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Mephisto

*sigh* biologi dulu dapet berapa ni anak !?
Pesawat kan gak terbang sendiri, kecuali yang barusan ditemukan oleh Amrik... Yang nerbangin kan orang, nah, kalo itu medan magnet, yang kepengaruh navigasi, tapi manusia tetep tau mana atas mana bawah... Trus nabrak apa !? nyosor ke laut ya gak mungkin, kecuali kadar alkohol si pilot di atas normal...
*walks out of thread to escape from the wrath of st00pidity*

The Demonic Light Warrior™ out...

Wah.. gak bisa diajak becanda ya? Iyaa.. gua tau alat keseimbangan tu adanya dideket2 indra pendengaran.. apa namanya.. rumah keong ya? Pokoknya yg bentuknya menyerupai keong gitu..

Nyante aja mas..:D gak usah gitu2 amat dong :D..

Windy Reed

03-07-2002, 07:11 PM

salah, alat keseimbangan itu bentuknya seperti tiga saluran yang melingkar, rumah keong itu sendiri alat buat transfer info dari getaran jadi sinyal listrik ke otak

Bakatenshi

03-07-2002, 09:12 PM

Dulu ada kabar/berita yang menyatakan bahwa Segitiga Bermuda itu merupakan mesin waktu, bener ga seh !??! ::ihiks::

E121F

04-07-2002, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by Windy Reed
salah, alat keseimbangan itu bentuknya seperti tiga saluran yang melingkar, rumah keong itu sendiri alat buat transfer info dari getaran jadi sinyal listrik ke otak
::up:: tepat sekali WR :D
kalo nama organnya itu otolith

Mephisto

04-07-2002, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by MightyAbrams

Wah.. gak bisa diajak becanda ya? Iyaa.. gua tau alat keseimbangan tu adanya dideket2 indra pendengaran.. apa namanya.. rumah keong ya? Pokoknya yg bentuknya menyerupai keong gitu..

Nyante aja mas..:D gak usah gitu2 amat dong :D..

Haiyaaa... salah bang... Alat peraba gravitasi kita mah berupa bulu-bulu halus di dalem telinga... Makanya kalo di air kita kehilangan sense of gravity kita, soalnya bulu-bulu itu bergerak gak karuan karena pengaruh air...

The Demonic Light Warrior™ out...

Ztar Kraftz

04-07-2002, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by Mephisto

Bukannya kalo di udara itu gak ngepek, cuman arah, bukan sense of gravity yang kepengaruh kan !? Manusia kan punya alat pendeteksi gravitasi sendiri di dalam telinga...

The Demonic Light Warrior™ out...

pengaruh lah biar di udara juga, lah wong bumi aja dipengaruhi gaya gravitasi bulan sama matahari. belajar fisika kan?

E121F

04-07-2002, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by Ztar Kraftz

pengaruh lah biar di udara juga, lah wong bumi aja dipengaruhi gaya gravitasi bulan sama matahari. belajar fisika kan?
tapi kan nggak gitu kuat pengaruhnya ;D

Hamlet

04-07-2002, 11:37 PM

Ngomong-ngomong emang masih ada yang hilang di Segitiga Bermuda yah? Kasus terakhir kapan? Kayanya sekarang udah engga ada berita atau kasus dari Segitiga Bermuda lagi yah? ::bingung::

Mephisto

05-07-2002, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Ztar Kraftz

pengaruh lah biar di udara juga, lah wong bumi aja dipengaruhi gaya gravitasi bulan sama matahari. belajar fisika kan?

Ummm... Coba, kamu terjun dari lante 30, kamu jatuh ke atas apa ke bawah !? Kalo kamu jatuh ke bawah, itu artinya pada tubuh kamu gaya gravitasi bumilah yang bekerja lebih dominan terhadap tubuh kamu, kalo kamu bergerak ke atas, berdoalah supaya kamu masuk sorga, soalnya menurut kata-katamu, kamu bakal mengunjungi matahari... :D

The Demonic Light Warrior™ out...

E121F

05-07-2002, 01:53 PM

sebenernya definisi 'hilang' yang dibicarakan itu apa sih?
langsung tiba2 lenyap dari pandangan? ato jatuh, ato gimana?

Hamlet

08-07-2002, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by E121F
sebenernya definisi 'hilang' yang dibicarakan itu apa sih?
langsung tiba2 lenyap dari pandangan? ato jatuh, ato gimana?

Hmm..bisa dibilang kaya gitu sih. Hilang dari layar radar, kehilangan kontak dengan instansi di darat atau hilangnya kapal atau pesawat terbang dari rute. Di tahun 1945, Flight 19 -- lima pesawat pembom Navy sedang dalam misi latihan rutin, satu skuadron lenyap tak berbekas hingga kini. Pesan terakhir yang diterima dari skuadron ini hanyalah huruf "FT". Hingga sekarang tak secuil pun dari reruntuhannya dapat ditemukan. Lenyap seolah-olah ditelan bumi.

U.S Navy sendiri mengeluarkan secara resmi mengapa Segitiga Bermuda begitu sering mengakibatkan hilangnya pesawat terbang atau kapal laut. Ini sedikit cuplikannya:

The official position of the U.S Navy is that the mysteries of the Triangle result from three major factors:

1. This part of the Atlantic is one of the two places on Earth where a magnetic compass does not point to true north and can vary by as much as 20 degrees. Most of the disappearances involve small craft and amateur sailors, who could easily have been baffled by these compass wobbles and gone seriously astray. The similar area in the Pacific is called "the Devil's Sea" by the Japanese, also has magnetic irregulations, and is known for many lost ships.

2. The Bermuda Triangle lies in the most turbulent part of the Gulf Stream, where thunderstorms, waterspouts, and the weather in general can not only create disasters but also quickly drawn all the evidence or cast it about like pebbles in a cyclone.

3. The topography of the area varies from extensive shoals to some of the deepest ocean trenches known to science. Strong currents, sudden storms, and many reefs combine to make accidents and sinkings highly probable.

Satu lagi kasus misterius yang terjadi di Segitiga Bermuda adalah lenyapnya awak kapal Mary Celeste yang panjangnya 103 kaki di tahun 1872. Kapal Mary Celeste ditemukan terapung dan terlantar, 400 miles keluar dari rutenya. Perahu penyelamatnya telah diluncurkan seluruhnya namun tidak ada jejak atas anak buah kapalnya ataupun alasan mengapa harus melarikan diri dari kapal tersebut.

:)

E121F

08-07-2002, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by Hamlet

Hmm..bisa dibilang kaya gitu sih. Hilang dari layar radar, kehilangan kontak dengan instansi di darat atau hilangnya kapal atau pesawat terbang dari rute. Di tahun 1945, Flight 19 -- lima pesawat pembom Navy sedang dalam misi latihan rutin, satu skuadron lenyap tak berbekas hingga kini. Pesan terakhir yang diterima dari skuadron ini hanyalah huruf "FT". Hingga sekarang tak secuil pun dari reruntuhannya dapat ditemukan. Lenyap seolah-olah ditelan bumi.

U.S Navy sendiri mengeluarkan secara resmi mengapa Segitiga Bermuda begitu sering mengakibatkan hilangnya pesawat terbang atau kapal laut. Ini sedikit cuplikannya:

The official position of the U.S Navy is that the mysteries of the Triangle result from three major factors:

1. This part of the Atlantic is one of the two places on Earth where a magnetic compass does not point to true north and can vary by as much as 20 degrees. Most of the disappearances involve small craft and amateur sailors, who could easily have been baffled by these compass wobbles and gone seriously astray. The similar area in the Pacific is called "the Devil's Sea" by the Japanese, also has magnetic irregulations, and is known for many lost ships.

2. The Bermuda Triangle lies in the most turbulent part of the Gulf Stream, where thunderstorms, waterspouts, and the weather in general can not only create disasters but also quickly drawn all the evidence or cast it about like pebbles in a cyclone.

3. The topography of the area varies from extensive shoals to some of the deepest ocean trenches known to science. Strong currents, sudden storms, and many reefs combine to make accidents and sinkings highly probable.

Satu lagi kasus misterius yang terjadi di Segitiga Bermuda adalah lenyapnya awak kapal Mary Celeste yang panjangnya 103 kaki di tahun 1872. Kapal Mary Celeste ditemukan terapung dan terlantar, 400 miles keluar dari rutenya. Perahu penyelamatnya telah diluncurkan seluruhnya namun tidak ada jejak atas anak buah kapalnya ataupun alasan mengapa harus melarikan diri dari kapal tersebut.

:)
jadi itu hilang dari detecting device doank, secara visual (pake mata) nggak ilang kan?

Hamlet

08-07-2002, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by E121F

jadi itu hilang dari detecting device doank, secara visual (pake mata) nggak ilang kan?

Yup, betul. Sampai sekarang belum ada yang melaporkan melihat kapal atau pesawat yang tiba-tiba menghilang di depan mata. Kemungkinan besar yang mengakibatkan semua tragedi di Segitiga Bermuda diyakini karena kabut yang sering melanda daerah tersebut atau whirlpool.

Yang bikin gue bingung, kenapa anak buah kapal Mary Celeste hilang semua yah? Anak buah kapalnya kan bukan cuma sepuluh atau dua puluh orang, tapi bisa sampai delapan puluh atau seratus orang. ::bingung::

Windy Reed

09-07-2002, 08:47 AM

lagi testing buat proyek nanti nyelamatin sebagian manusia di hari kiamat kali, jadi nyobain dulu apa sistemnya bakal kerja :D

E121F

09-07-2002, 09:39 AM

hm.....
apakah ada suatu mahluk disana?
kalo difoto pake satelit gimana?

Windy Reed

09-07-2002, 09:44 AM

logikanya, kalo dia bisa ngilangin orang dan kapal, mustinya sih bisa ngumpet dari foto satelit

Pizzaro

09-07-2002, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Windy Reed
logikanya, kalo dia bisa ngilangin orang dan kapal, mustinya sih bisa ngumpet dari foto satelit

tapi aku masih bingung tuch kenapa bisa ngilangin tuch..!! jadi pengen kesana dan coba melewatinya... gimana cara ngumpetnya?? ::bingung::

Windy Reed

09-07-2002, 12:09 PM

... itu kan ngomongin seandainya ada mahkluk disana (bukan peristiwa alami)

E121F

09-07-2002, 12:27 PM

bener2 tempat yang menyeramkan ::ngg::

Pizzaro

09-07-2002, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by E121F
bener2 tempat yang menyeramkan ::ngg::

tapi asik tuch untuk diselidiki...
penasaran euy

Hamlet

09-07-2002, 01:22 PM

Dipoto? Yah kalo dari atas, Segitiga Bermuda itu engga lebih dari lautan luas. Sama kaya dimanapun juga, aer dimana-mana. :D

Tapi mungkin di dasar lautnya ada pusat magnetik yang besar. Yang bikin bingung, kenapa orangnya bisa pada ilang tapi kapalnya masih ada? Must be something really wrong at that time.

E121F

09-07-2002, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Hamlet
Dipoto? Yah kalo dari atas, Segitiga Bermuda itu engga lebih dari lautan luas. Sama kaya dimanapun juga, aer dimana-mana. :D

Tapi mungkin di dasar lautnya ada pusat magnetik yang besar. Yang bikin bingung, kenapa orangnya bisa pada ilang tapi kapalnya masih ada? Must be something really wrong at that time.
hm..
tempat meteor yang memusnahkan semua dino jatuh?

maksut nya foto x ray ato infra red gitu loh, bukan potret visual

Pizzaro

09-07-2002, 03:33 PM

tapi segitiga muda itu masih misteri tuch...
kalo dalam dunia science mengatakan itu ada karena magnet
apa mungkin gak berhubungan dengan psikis

Hamlet

09-07-2002, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by E121F

hm..
tempat meteor yang memusnahkan semua dino jatuh?

maksut nya foto x ray ato infra red gitu loh, bukan potret visual

Oh, kalo soal itu sih gue engga tau jelas. Yang pasti sampe sekarang belon ada jejak kemana tuh pesawat ama kapal lautnya.

MightyAbrams

10-07-2002, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Hamlet

Yup, betul. Sampai sekarang belum ada yang melaporkan melihat kapal atau pesawat yang tiba-tiba menghilang di depan mata. Kemungkinan besar yang mengakibatkan semua tragedi di Segitiga Bermuda diyakini karena kabut yang sering melanda daerah tersebut atau whirlpool.

Yang bikin gue bingung, kenapa anak buah kapal Mary Celeste hilang semua yah? Anak buah kapalnya kan bukan cuma sepuluh atau dua puluh orang, tapi bisa sampai delapan puluh atau seratus orang. ::bingung::

Gak juga.. Mary Celeste tu kapal kargo, bukan kapal perang yg kompleks dan butuh banyak awak. Awaknya paling banter 30-an orang. Apalagi itu kapal kayu yg gak gede2 amat. Mungkin cuman belasan.

Ditahun 1943, proyek rainbow Al Amerika secara gak sengaja berhasil "memindahkan" kapal perusak USS Selfridge dlm sekejap mata dari Philadelphia ke Norfolk yg jaraknya 600 mil. Dan pada awalnya proyek itu berusaha membuat kapal perang yg gak bisa dilihat oleh mata dan radar.. dan berhasil.. plus satu kejadian gak terduga itu.

E121F

10-07-2002, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by MightyAbrams

Gak juga.. Mary Celeste tu kapal kargo, bukan kapal perang yg kompleks dan butuh banyak awak. Awaknya paling banter 30-an orang. Apalagi itu kapal kayu yg gak gede2 amat. Mungkin cuman belasan.

Ditahun 1943, proyek rainbow Al Amerika secara gak sengaja berhasil "memindahkan" kapal perusak USS Selfridge dlm sekejap mata dari Philadelphia ke Norfolk yg jaraknya 600 mil. Dan pada awalnya proyek itu berusaha membuat kapal perang yg gak bisa dilihat oleh mata dan radar.. dan berhasil.. plus satu kejadian gak terduga itu.
teknologi macam apa itu? ::bingung::

Windy Reed

11-07-2002, 08:36 AM

yang kedua itu, also known as The Philadelphia Project, bener gak bung Abrams ?

MightyAbrams

11-07-2002, 09:27 AM

Yup :D!!

Kalo dipikir2 segala macem "senjata ajaib" yg ada di game Redalert en Redalert2 tu juga dikembangin didunia nyata..

Salah satunya Tesla Coil..

Windy Reed

11-07-2002, 10:33 AM

walau jadinya OT

senjata ajaib di Red Alert apa aja sih ?

kalo Tesla Coil masalahnya di cara lemparin petirnya kan ?

Pizzaro

11-07-2002, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by Windy Reed
walau jadinya OT

senjata ajaib di Red Alert apa aja sih ?

kalo Tesla Coil masalahnya di cara lemparin petirnya kan ?

what's that??!!
::bingung::

E121F

11-07-2002, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by Windy Reed
walau jadinya OT

senjata ajaib di Red Alert apa aja sih ?

kalo Tesla Coil masalahnya di cara lemparin petirnya kan ?
yup, cara lemparin petirnya ;D
kenapa gak nyambernya ke unit sendiri, cuma ke unit musuh ;D
dan 1 lagi yang mirip peristiwa di atas :
red alert : allies stage 1 :
3 ekor cruiser di chronosphere

MightyAbrams

13-07-2002, 10:32 AM

yup.. chronosphere itu mungkin fantasinya yg bikin RA atas Philadelphia Project.

Trus senjata Weather Controljuga katanya dikembangin ama Amerika. Tapi bedanya dia gak bikin hujan petir, tapi bikin cuaca didaerah musuh jadi bagus sehingga pesawat2 Amerika bisa ngebom tanpa halangan.

Sebenernya manusia tu pinter bgt ya? Bisa bikin yg aneh2 gitu..

E121F

14-07-2002, 08:23 AM

ntar lama kelamaan bisa jadi kayak Tuhan ;D

Windy Reed

14-07-2002, 08:35 AM

gak lah, urusan nyawa mah susah ngurusinnya, ama chaos juga

Originally posted by MightyAbrams
Trus senjata Weather Controljuga katanya dikembangin ama Amerika. Tapi bedanya dia gak bikin hujan petir, tapi bikin cuaca didaerah musuh jadi bagus sehingga pesawat2 Amerika bisa ngebom tanpa halangan.

hujan buatan bisa gak ? lebih guna kan ?

E121F

14-07-2002, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Windy Reed

hujan buatan bisa gak ? lebih guna kan ?
luatnya dikasi garem lagi ;D

Hamlet

14-07-2002, 11:59 AM

Philadelphia Project? Apa lagi tuh? Ada yang bisa jelasin? :)

pegasus

14-07-2002, 03:04 PM

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq21-1.htm

atau klik ke sini (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=philadelphia+experiment&spell=1) !

:D :D :D

E121F

14-07-2002, 10:18 PM

ogah baca :(

MightyAbrams

15-07-2002, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Windy Reed
hujan buatan bisa gak ? lebih guna kan ?

Buat tentara2 Amerika yg selalu dateng dari dan berusaha menguasai udara, gak ada yg lebih penting selain total air supremacy dimedan perang.

Thats why they got the strongest air force in history of mankind:D

kalo tentang Philadelphia Projest.. kalogak salah karena waktu itu sekutu dihadapin ama ancaman maut dilaut, yaitu dari gerombolan serigala kapal selam Jerman ama aramada kekaisaran Jepang.

Jadi mereka berpikir utk membuat kapal yg invisible baik secara radar maupun mata. Gitu deh.. kalo mo lebih lengkap ya baca aja hyperlink diatas..

E121F

15-07-2002, 03:31 PM

OT dikit ;D
ngomong2 soal pesawat, gue tadi pagi barusan liat koran bekas tentang pesawat siluman tanpa awak
wah, hebat banget yah manusia udah bikin AI di stealth ;D

Hamlet

18-07-2002, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by E121F
OT dikit ;D
ngomong2 soal pesawat, gue tadi pagi barusan liat koran bekas tentang pesawat siluman tanpa awak
wah, hebat banget yah manusia udah bikin AI di stealth ;D

Di era-1980 Amerika sudah ada pesawat militer tanpa awak. Sebagian besar untuk misi surveilance alias pesawat mata-mata untuk mempenetrasi daerah musuh. Kalau soal pesawat tak berawak yang stealth, kayanya jarang tuh. :D Keren juga, hemat personil militer ^^; lama-lama ntar perang mesin kaya di MechWarrior, kaga ada orangnya. :D

MightyAbrams

18-07-2002, 06:07 PM

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ucav_a1.jpg

X-45.. misinya SEAD ato Suppression of Enemy Air Defence. Wah, kayaknya bakal nggantiin F-16 Wild Weasel ato F-117 nih..

Tugas SEAD biasanya paling berbahaya soalnya selaen dia yg maju pertama kali buat ngelumpuhin jaringan pertahanan musuh, misi2 SEAD terjadi dihari2 pertama peperangan dimana kekuatan musuh masih kuat.

Ada kemungkinan bakal dipake juga sama US Navy, soalnya USN gak punya pesawat stealth ato sejenisnya yg bisa melakukan misi2 berani mati kayak gitu.

E121F

18-07-2002, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by MightyAbrams
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ucav_a1.jpg

X-45.. misinya SEAD ato Suppression of Enemy Air Defence. Wah, kayaknya bakal nggantiin F-16 Wild Weasel ato F-117 nih..

Tugas SEAD biasanya paling berbahaya soalnya selaen dia yg maju pertama kali buat ngelumpuhin jaringan pertahanan musuh, misi2 SEAD terjadi dihari2 pertama peperangan dimana kekuatan musuh masih kuat.

Ada kemungkinan bakal dipake juga sama US Navy, soalnya USN gak punya pesawat stealth ato sejenisnya yg bisa melakukan misi2 berani mati kayak gitu.
hm......
itu pake AI ?
ehhehe
jadi OT lagi deh

pegasus

19-07-2002, 01:19 AM

ngomongin pesawat mata2
gimana kabarnya Aurora ya?

pesawat siluman yg saking misteriusnya,
sampai sekarang belum pernah ada yg tau bentuk real-nya...

;D

E121F

19-07-2002, 10:33 AM

Aurora? Space Ship yang di game privateer2 itu ? ::ah:: <- ngehang abiez

eh, gimana nih segitiga bermudanya?

Hamlet

19-07-2002, 07:03 PM

Iya mana neh segitiganya :D kok malah jadi pesawat :D:D:D

E121F

19-07-2002, 07:20 PM

jumlah sudut2 dalam segitiga nggak harus 180 derajat loh (liat kompas) *ngaco.com*

Windy Reed

19-07-2002, 07:47 PM

bukti ?

E121F

19-07-2002, 09:42 PM

bukti? susah
tapi ada contoh
bayangin ini aja

anda ambil garis khatulistiwa, garis bujur timur 0 derajat, dan garis bujur barat 0 derajat
3 titik potong yang terbentuk adalah 3 titik sudut sebuah segitiga yang jumlah semua sudutnya lebih dari 180 derajat :D

NOTE : segitiganya itu di permukaan bola (bumi) loh

Windy Reed

19-07-2002, 09:59 PM

pantes, sangkain 2 dimensi doang

DespertBoyz

18-01-2003, 11:55 PM

nah satu lagi...gimana ttg yg satu ini...yg ada di bumi...ga usah jauh2 ke luar angkasa ^_^, kenapa kapal laut or kapal terbang yg lewat situ pada ilang entah kemana...ada yg berteori
1. di culik alien ^^'
2. di tuh daerah ada kelaenan gravitasi...
3. ada nya lubang dimensi laen...
hayo gmana menurut loe orang....: D

Padawan

19-01-2003, 06:39 AM

coba cari buku 'the bermuda triangle: unsolved'. buku ini hasil investigasi seorang wartawan. jawabannya simpel (gak nyangkut alien, dimensi lain, dll), yaitu: kesalahan navigasi yg disebabkan teknologi yg masih sederhana.

deva ares

19-01-2003, 02:40 PM

kayaknya thread ini udah pernah dibahas dehhh

E121F

19-01-2003, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by Padawan
coba cari buku 'the bermuda triangle: unsolved'. buku ini hasil investigasi seorang wartawan. jawabannya simpel (gak nyangkut alien, dimensi lain, dll), yaitu: kesalahan navigasi yg disebabkan teknologi yg masih sederhana.
kalo cuma sekedar kesalahan navigasi, kalo loe jalan lurus terus juga pasti udah kluar dari segitiga bermuda kan?

Padawan

20-01-2003, 09:56 AM

persoalannya jalan lurus itu susah. thomson dan thompson (di komik tintin) juga berusaha jalan lurus di gurun arab, tapi hasilnya malah muter2.

kesulitan kita untuk jalan lurus katanya sih bersumber dari ketidaksimetrisan letak organ2 tubuh kita.

e121f: OT nih, peragaan polikromatik-lu udah beres?

Axay

23-01-2003, 10:10 PM

Well, bukannya disono ada malingnya?::bingung::

Demon

24-01-2003, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by deva ares
kayaknya thread ini udah pernah dibahas dehhh

beberapa kali dibahas ? di forum kismis

tapi tetap aja jadi misteri, kalo soal navigasi rusak kenapa daerah itu sekarang jadi daerah yang dilarang oleh AL amerika untuk lewat disitu... berani lewat tembak katanya, udah jadi zona larangan terbang dan pelayaran

Padawan

24-01-2003, 02:11 PM

wah, kalo yg ini gue gak tau. ini resmi? tau sumbernya?

E121F

24-01-2003, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by Padawan
persoalannya jalan lurus itu susah. thomson dan thompson (di komik tintin) juga berusaha jalan lurus di gurun arab, tapi hasilnya malah muter2.

kesulitan kita untuk jalan lurus katanya sih bersumber dari ketidaksimetrisan letak organ2 tubuh kita.

e121f: OT nih, peragaan polikromatik-lu udah beres?
hei, gue jalan lurus juga susah, masalahnya kalo suatu benda seperti mesin kalo bertranslasi ya bertranslasi, gak bakal belok2 kan?
eloe nyetir mobil, ada suatu jalan lurus anggaplah jaraknya nggak berhingga, posisi stir eloe ada di 0 derajat
mata merem pun gak bakal nabrak, apalagi kalo mesin yang kontrolnya gak pake tangan

about my polychromatic filter? just see it in that thread ;)

asatsuki_okami

26-01-2003, 01:28 AM

saya rasa segitiga bermuda itu tempat kedudukan titik2.
seperti celana dalam saya juga ada 3 titik yang ditengah itu titik gandul yang ukurannya bervariasi setiap orang

E121F

26-01-2003, 10:50 AM

ya emang iya ;D
itu sudah aksioma :D

Padawan

26-01-2003, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by E121F
eloe nyetir mobil, ada suatu jalan lurus anggaplah jaraknya nggak berhingga, posisi stir eloe ada di 0 derajat
mata merem pun gak bakal nabrak, apalagi kalo mesin yang kontrolnya gak pake tangan

persoalannya, apa kita yakin kalo di mesin kita pun sempurna?

hmmm, gue termasuk yg skeptis trus yah? ::keyen::

Axay

29-01-2003, 12:18 AM

Beneran dah ga boleh lewat lagi?
alasannya apa?::bingung::

delfira_daffa

18-02-2003, 02:11 PM

Konon kabarnya segitiga bermuda merupakan salah satu titik kekuasaan syetan dan jin... gw ada baca buku tentang Segitiga Bermuda soalnya, tapi dari sudut agama.. hmm.. dan kayanya gw percaya degh....

Hehehe... sori kalo gak nyambung ke iptek ya :D

Shinji Ikari

19-02-2003, 04:23 PM

Tau darimana itu segitiga sih...?

Padawan

20-02-2003, 10:51 PM

segitiga itu terbentuk bila kita menarik garis antara semenanjung florida (timur laut), kep. bahama (barat) dan kep. karibia (selatan).

The`Disintegrators

22-02-2003, 09:20 AM

katanya ada medan magnet yg kuat ::bentar:: ::bingung::

E121F

22-02-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Shinji Ikari
Tau darimana itu segitiga sih...?
karena ada 3 titik seperti yang disebutkan padawan
dengan 3 titik yang kita tahu kita bisa buat bidang kan? (segitiga)

apa kita ganti namanya jadi prisma segitiga bermuda ? ;D

puta_bonita.

23-02-2003, 12:31 AM

apaan sih pic itu?? gak mau buka ah. Mo advertise loe ya??:D

devitoitaliano

22-08-2003, 01:26 PM

banyak yang uda pernah coba kesana tapi tidak pernah kembali
ada yang bilang di segitiga bermuda ada black hole yang menghisap apa saja di sekitarnya dan black hole itu adalah lubang yang menuju keluar angkasa

mungkin ada yang punya informasi lain tentang misteri ini
atau mungkin ada yg uda tau kebenarannya?

senamjari

22-08-2003, 08:53 PM

menurut dari yg gua denger...
segitiga bermuda memiliki medan magnet yg sangat kuat di dasarnya, sehingga benda apapun yg melintas di bawahnya akan tersedot ke dasar laut.

correct me if i'm wrong.
cuma ini yg gua tau.::bentar::

firebird

23-08-2003, 10:51 AM

Yah, sebenarnya bukan daya magnetiknya kuat. Tapi ketidak stabikan daya magnetik. Sehingga semua benda terperangkap di daerah tersebut.::bentar:: That's what i know

Riovasky

25-08-2003, 02:36 AM

yang gue denger mah laen lagi... (lebih sensasional) :D
disana terdapat aksi penculikan besar2an terhadap umat manusia.. oleh umat manusia lainnya...
nah...
orang2 yang di bermuda tsb menutupi diri dari kebudayaan luar...
sehingga kita sama sekali tidak tahu apa sebetulnya disana itu...
dan misteri piring terbang pun hanya dilihat oleh org2 florida dan sekitarnya (sepanjang pantai timur amrik)

devitoitaliano

25-08-2003, 07:02 PM

gua bener bener penasaran, ada yang tau info detailnya gak yah?

kalo emang ada medan magnet yang tidak stabil itu, apakah itu adalah sebuah kecacatan/penyimpangan keseimbangan bumi?

kenapa letaknya strategis yah? di antara 3 pulau yg membentuk segitiga??

ada yg tau lokasinya di mana?

opini nya si riovasky sih juga gak menutup kemungkinan, tapi dgn teknologi manusia sekarang yg canggih, rasanya misteri itu pasti bisa terpecahkan seharusnya.

nah kalo elektromagnet bisa jadi, elektromagnetik yg sgt besar memungkinkan komunikasi jadi terputus, jadi gak ada yg tau kebenarannya kekekekke.

gua merasa seperti ada "suatu rahasia/misteri alam" yg sangat penting di sana, bagi perkembangan ilmu pengetahuan n science untuk umat manusia apa bila bisa memecahkan teka teki itu.

himura kenshin

25-08-2003, 08:00 PM

ada nggak ya tempat lain yang mirip sama segitiga bermuda ?

Valmighty

25-08-2003, 10:18 PM

segitiga bermuda itu sebenernya adalah suatu BUG dari dunia kita, MATRIX.:D

Hamlet

26-08-2003, 05:08 AM

Kebeneran kemaren baca buku yang baru terbit. Tentang greatest mysteries. Dibahas juga tentang Segitiga Bermuda. Di buku itu dibilang, selaen ada medan magnet yang kuat, suhu di tengah lautan Segitiga Bermuda itu begitu unik, sehingga mampu menciptakan topan yang bener-bener luar biasa (gue lupa namanya, ntar gue beli deh bukunya) dalam hitungan menit, dan menghilang dengan cepat pula. Ini dapat terjadi berkali2 dalam sehari. Sehingga bukan hanya kapal laut tetapi pesawat terbang juga. Banyak dari kasus hilangnya pesawat atau kapal laut tersebut dimana di saat-saat terakhir sebelum hilang, pesawat2 atau kapal laut tersebut selalu melaporkan bahwa cuaca cerah. Dan topan tersebut bisa muncul dalam hitungan menit (maybe under 10 minutes).

Tapi tentu saja ada cerita-cerita lain tentang Segitiga Bermuda yang sedikit berbau takhayul. Moga-moga gue bisa ada waktu luang buat beli bukunya di downtown minggu ini. Tunggu postingan berikutnya yah.

Nikita55

26-08-2003, 07:57 AM

aku gak tau ada apa di segitiga bermuda itu..
tapi apakah bener gak ada satupun pesawat atau kapal laut yang selamat melewati area itu?
lha yang waktu itu dilakuin sama pesulap... siapa namanya?
David Cooperfield? dia bisa tuh ngelewatin segitiga bermuda?
ntah bener ngelewatin ato dibantuin sama jin nya ngiterin area itu? pokoknya dia ngelewatin aja dan selamat sampai diseberang.

coba kita bisa tanya ama dia, ada apa sebenarnya di segitiga bermuda...
yang di buku ato diceritain orang kan bisa aja cuma praduga..

firebird

26-08-2003, 09:47 AM

CLICK FOR THE MAP OF BERMUDA TRIANGLE (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/84de8f21/bc/Yahoo!+Photo+Album/__hr_Bermuda.jpg?bcjTuS_AxAsJrP53)

Riovasky

26-08-2003, 02:41 PM

david coperfield waktu itu kalah waktu adu magic melawan kekuatan bermuda...

huh...
magician kacangan gitu mau ngelawan kekuatan bermuda... :D
padahal setau kita david adalah seorang pesulap kesohor... :D

KotaroShindo

26-08-2003, 04:23 PM

kalo misalnya ada medan magnetik atau topan mestinya kapal dan pesawat yg terhisap ada bekas2nya kan, maksud gw bangkai atau puing kapalnya gitu. kan lumayan banyak juga kapal yg udah dihisap.

Valmighty

26-08-2003, 05:58 PM

knp gak ada yg bikin jembatan di pulau itu. maksudnya:

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9

kalo 9 ilang kan 8 bisa liat, kalo 8 ilang kan 7 bisa liat, dst. jadinya ilangnya tuh diketahui. sampe skr kan ilangnya masih misterius...

firebird

27-08-2003, 09:52 AM

First Theory of Bermuda's Mistery :

TRUE NORTH/MAGNETIC NORTH?

Magnetic Variation: possibly the most bogus theory of them all. When the Coast Guard put their name on this theory they neutered a lot of their credibility. No one had heard about this theory until the Coast Guard put out a little hastily written chit about 30 years ago, stating their position on the subject of the Bermuda Triangle.
It reads, in part:

Countless theories attempting to explain the many disappearances have been offered throughout the history of the area. The most practical seem to be environmental and those citing human error. The majority of disappearances can be attributed to the area's unique environmental features. First, the "Devil's Triangle" is one of the two places on earth that a magnetic compass does point towards true north. Normally it points toward magnetic north. The difference between the two is known as compass variation. The amount of variation changes by as much as 20 degrees as one circumnavigates the earth. If this compass variation or error is not compensated for, a navigator could find himself far off course and in deep trouble.

This is a very misleading statement. For one, the area of no compass variation is a very narrow corridor, tantamount to a fraction of the overall Triangle. It also overlooks the fact that one cannot even plot a course without having a navigational chart, and all navigational charts have the amount of variation written on them for every degree of longitude. Before a navigator could even chart a course he would have to know the amount of variation. This also overlooks the large number of disappearances of pilots and skippers who were old hands in this part of the world, being charter pilots and the like. They were very familiar with local variation.
It also presupposes that the navigator was stupid enough not to compensate. Yet compensation in navigating is second nature to any navigator.

http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/Theories/True_North_Magnetic_North_/Agonic.gif

But lets expand on compass variation, since many do not understand it. Compass variation does not mean that the compass needle points somewhere else. The compass always points to Magnetic North. The problem with this is Magnetic North is not at the North Pole, the absolute geographic northern spot on this planet; it is 1,500 miles away. As far as the compass is concerned, the absolute north of this planet is at Prince of Wales Island in the Northwest Territories of Canada.
The magnetic field of the earth can be likened to a bar magnet running through the earth from north to south. Both ends of the bar would be the north and south magnetic poles. The bar itself would be the axis or, as it is called in geophysics, the Agonic Line.
This would not pose any problem to the navigator were it not for the fact that Magnetic North is located 1,500 miles away from the North Pole. Therefore, geographic north on the earth, the area we mentally consider absolute north, is not where the compass points. Following the N on your compass is not going to
The area of the Agonic Line marked in red, as it was when the Coast Guard drew up their statement 30 years ago. Along this line there is no need to adjust one’s heading because Magnetic North and True North coincide. Already at Bimini island there is a 2 degree westerly variation. That means if a pilot wanted to head True West here, he would not steer 270o by his compass but 272o. It seems infinitesimal, but over time 2 degrees can lead to dozens of miles off course. In the short distances between the coast and the Bahama Islands, it doesn’t amount to much here.
lead you to the North Pole; it will lead you to Prince of Wales Island. See illustration.

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The red dots indicate True North, that is, the absolute geographic north of this planet (North Pole); and Magnetic North, 1,500 miles in a southerly direction from it. The central axis (Agonic Line) of the magnetic field extends through the planet to the South Magnetic Pole at Antarctica. When off Florida, both the North Pole and the Magnetic Pole are in line. The Compass truly points to the North Pole here but only briefly. It is merely incidental because Magnetic North is directly due south of the North Pole here.

To compensate for this, the navigator must know the number of degrees of difference between Magnetic North and True North in his longitude. This changes according to one’s longitude around the earth. For instance, at the Azores Islands there is a 20 degree difference between True North and Magnetic North. Off the east coast of Florida, there is none. The compass is still pointing to Magnetic North. It just so happens that True North is directly north of here. See illustration.

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Right: as the Compass sees the four cardinal points. See what happens if you blindly follow your magnetic compass. Everything is tilted because it believes North is 1,500 miles south of the North Pole. West is slightly southwest; East is slightly northeast; North is slightly northwest; South: southeast. Wherever a navigator is, he must adjust his heading to maintain a true course. . . except at the Agonic Line.

Except for this narrow corridor, there is always some form of compensation the navigator must go through.* For example, at the Azores, if a navigator wanted to go straight north, he could not follow the N on his compass. If he did, he would end up in Canada and not in Greenland. So he heads 020 degrees and now he is heading True north. That is what Compass Variation means: the amount of difference between the North Pole and the Magnetic North Pole at a given location. The result is a simple navigational adjustment to stay on course.

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Right, what we imagine the Compass to reflect: the true North, East, West, and South of this geographic sphere. Far left, the Compass’ concept of where North, West, East, and South are located, if viewed from the Azores. True North is actually 020o.

This amount of variation will decrease the further one travels West until one reaches the Agonic Line. Soon after, the amount of variation will increase again, with the compass pointing Easterly of True North.
There is little reason to suppose that this has contributed to any loss. Failure to compensate the amount of variation correctly can cause a pilot to get lost anywhere in the world, whether there is no degree variation to compensate for or 15 degrees. One degree off can, over time, result in many miles in error, making a pilot miss his intended destination.
But as I said this can happen anywhere in the world. The Triangle does not stand out as unique because there is no variation in degrees to calculate for a brief period in a very narrow corridor of it.
I try and list theories objectively. But in this case a dead horse is a dead horse. There is no merit to this theory at all.
A further factor contributing to this deduction is that the Agonic Line moves as the magnetic pole shifts, due to many factors in the rotation of the earth. Over time the Agonic Line can be miles from where it was. Actually every 2 months or so a flight is manned and sent to find the magnetic pole. The upshot is that the Agonic Line is not in the Triangle anymore. It is located in the Gulf of Mexico beyond Key West— to those who demand adherence to a strict shape to the “Triangle,” completely outside of it.
The artwork and maps above show the Agonic Line where it was when the Coast Guard made up their little chit about 30 years ago. Magnetic Variation was not a satisfactory explanation before. It is even more passé now. Disappearances still occur in the same places as before, even though the Line is on the other side of Florida now.

*Yes I know it happens on the exact other side of the world; but that is not relevant here so we can dispense with it in this article.

firebird

27-08-2003, 10:12 AM

Second Theory of Bermuda's Mystery:

BUACHE MAP

Kept in the Library of Congress in Washington D.C., the Buache Map is often touted by pseudo science as evidence there had once been an advanced or prehistoric supercivilization. Pretty much reflecting this view, Charles Berlitz described it as: ". . .copied from ancient Greek maps, showing Antarctica without the ice. If the ice did not presently cover Antarctica, the Ross & Weddell Seas would unite in a gigantic strait separating Antarctica into two land masses, a fact which was not established until the Geophysical Year of 1958. This map is another indication of surprising technological capabilities of some of ancient cultures."
This surprising technological capability has been proposed by several as a leftover from Atlantis and its world straddling empire, or from aliens who visited the earth in ancient times, the "Ancient Astronaut Theory," so popular in the early 1970s from Erich von Däniken's phenomenally popular "Chariots of the Gods," though he does not mention the Buache Map specifically.
As late as 1995, Graham Hancock, late of his search for the lost Ark of the Covenant, wrote in his voluminous Finger Prints of the Gods pretty much the same thing. "Philippe Buache, the eighteenth century French geographer, was also able to publish a map of Antarctica long before the southern continent was officially 'discovered.' And the extraordinary feature of Buache's map is that it seems to have been based on source maps made earlier, perhaps thousands of years earlier,* than those used by Oronteus Finaeus and Mercator. What Buache gives us is an eerily precise representation of Antarctica as it must have looked when there was no ice on it at all.* His map reveals the subglacial topography of the entire continent, which even we did not have full knowledge of until 1958 . . ." (*italics are his)
Overall, it is the extraordinary preponderance that there is no ice on Antarctica and that it appears on maps before it was discovered that impresses many pseudo science writers that this map is older than the glaciation of the continent which they say occurred about 6,000 years ago.
(Well, if it was before polar ice the sea level would be much higher today and Antarctica would look remarkably smaller. . .but we'll pass that one by and concentrate on the map here)

These type of researchers apparently do no research themselves, but merely repeat one another. This seems probable for a variety of reason, especially since the map was made in 1739 as it states, not 1737 as they all say; that last date can be traced back to a typo 30 years ago. Many, including Berlitz and Hancock, reproduce the map in their books, yet I suppose never bothered to read what it said. Apparently none of those who touted this map as extraordinary could read even the least French (although Berlitz is one of the top linguists in the world) . . .or they simply did not wish to.
Below is a translation of the French on the map. It describes both the voyages of the ships of the expedition which led to this map. Plus, on the right, it records those responsible for its production. Below this, with blowups we will look at certain key areas of the map.

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The Buache Map. It is seldom ever blown up enough in modern pseudoscience books to allow the reader to actually examine it. According to the bottom of it, it was printed "At Paris, on the Quay of the Magifferie at St. Espirit, near the Pont Neuf under the auspices of the Royal Academy of Sciences, the 3rd of September, 1739." Click to enlarge

Extract of the voyage to the southern lands

1738, July 19, the 2 frigates the Aigle and the Marie left a port of the Orient; the 8th of September they passed the Ligne [equator?]; the 11th of October they arrived at the Island of St. Catherine on the coast of Brazil; the 13th of November they set sail from this island for to go search latitude 44o by 355 longitude. On the 26th a thick mist at 35o lat. and 334 long.— often one cannot distinguish the objects at a gun port. It lasted until 20th January. Dec. 3, at the beginning, they begin to see the Geuemon(?), strong large whales, and birds at 39o 20 min latitude and 351 longitude. Believing themselves near to some land, they sounded without finding ground even at 180 fathoms.
The 7th Dec. Weather cold although it is now Summer and the sun draws nigh the soltice. The 10th of Dec, lat. 44o and under the Prime Merdian: The "Land of View" is placed in this area by some geographers. One was not able to discover any such land, either because it has been mischarted or there is no such island. The 25th: on the Paris Latitude, longitude 7o; The air is very frigid. Saw several icebergs which has made us suspect land is nearby. The 21st: latitude 51 o 23' longitude 15o 22' --- the gusts give on with varying and differentiating irregularity— tried again in approaching the icebergs in the Bay of Hudson and in the -- of Davis.
1739, 1st of January: See fall of land, strong and high, at 54o latitude, and at 23o 30' longitude– and there named it Cape of the Circoncision. Tarried 12 days without being able to land there on account of the icebergs, the mist and the contrary winds. 12th through 25th on course to 51o latitude during --- longitude seeing whales, etc.
4th February, at 44o 30 latitude and at 6o longitude the vessels separate: Mr. Bouvet to make route to the Cape of Good Hope and Mr. Hay to Isle de France. The 4th of March cast anchor at Cape of Good Hope where he reckoned we had been within reach of l'E.(?) (icebergs) based on the course conjecture from the 25th of January.
The 31st departed the Cape for France. Arrived in France the 24th of June without loss of any man in spite of the extreme fatigue of the voyage.

Translation of Text on right of Map

MAP OF THE SOUTHERN LANDS, encompassing the area between the Tropic of Capricorn and the Antarctic Pole, where one sees the new discoveries made in 1739 south of the Cape of Good Hope.
BY THE ORDERS OF THE GENTLEMEN OF THE INDIA COMPANY.

Drawn from the memories and from the original map of Monsieur de Lozier Bouvet Chargé of this Expedition.

By Philippe Buache, of the Royal Academy of Sciences, son-in-law of the late Monsieur Delisle, Personal Geographer of the King, of the same academy.
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Augmented with various physical views [chart details] etc. 1754
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OUTSERT Plan and view of the lands of the C APE OF THE CIRCONCISION, situated at 54 degrees of Latitude Meridian and around 27 degrees 30 minutes of Longitude.

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The outsert on the Buache Map describing an enlargement of the Cape of Circoncision. It reads: These iceburgs [glaciers] are from 2 to 300 feet high. And from one half league up to 2 or 3 leagues of circumphrance.

Well, of the "Extract Of The Voyage" some is conjecture, and there are a couple of words I could not read– abbreviations, old French nautical terms and 250 year old idioms. Even a 19th century French-English dictionary did not help. But the point is made that the vessels were scouting the Antarctic ice flow. As the outsert of the map shows in the enlargement (above right), they were sure land was seen, but they could not approach it due to the icebergs and frigid winds.
This is not a map that Philippe Buache simply charted from old Greek maps that came from Atlanteans. These are no where mentioned. The map is a massive composite and deduction based on several explorer's reports. Besides the routes of the Aigle and Marie, the chart holds courses described by Amerigo Vespuce (after whom America is named), and the route of Abel Tasman in 1642/3, some 100 years prior to this voyage. It is from all these reports of latitude and longitude that Philippe Buache designed the map.

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Portion of the Buache Map showing New Zealand (Nouvelle Zelande) as attached to Antarctica.

firebird

27-08-2003, 10:13 AM

Enlarging portions of the Buache Map helps us to see this. It is plain to see that New Zealand (Nouvelle Zelande) was considered attached to Antarctica. Since it was not yet circumnavigated, this was merely a big deduction based on Abel Tasman's report of his position when he entered the Bay of Assasins and the nearby Isle of the Three Kings, which he discovered in January 1643, as the map says. From this to the ice flow, Buache drew a line, presuming it was all land, thereby making a huge continent. New Zealand has not moved to its present spot. The map clearly marks its correct relationship to 30o SL and the Tropic of Capricorn. In several areas of "Antarctica" Buache placed Soupconnées and Conjecturée– suspected and conjectured. Because of this the coast line is very close to Terre de Deimen –Land of Demons, in other words, Tasmania.
It is shocking that anybody claiming the Buache Map is a copy of mysterious ancient Greek maps, which in turn were copied from Atlanteans or whoever, could get published. French is a common enough language to read and write. The map plainly declares its provenance as based on the "memories and the original map of Mr. Bouvet, who was in charge of the expedition."

Ice, glaciers and freezing temperatures are repeating themes on the map. This is not Antarctica before the ice age. The Buache Map shows icebergs all over the area.
The 18th century view was that icebergs originated from the run off of rivers into freezing bays. In order to account for so many of the size they saw, they deduced there must be a huge "Bassin terrestre" or inner harbor beyond the ice shelf into which the rivers must run. The icebergs would make their way out to sea via 2 large debouquements (outlets) of the Mer Glaciale (Glacial Sea), the name they dubbed this hypothetical bay. They believed Antarctica must have rivers "as considerable as those of Siberia which create the icebergs of the North."

This strait that connects the Weddell and Ross seas is merely expressing that conjecture about iceberg creation. But the map plainly says the area is conjecturée. Today, we know there is a land bridge. However, from the extreme distance the readings had to have been taken since the ships could not get too close on account of all the surrounding ice, they merely assumed the vast seas of ice and ice shelf attached over the horizon.
This "sea of ice" has its direction all fouled up as well, something a satellite photo would not show, nor a supercivilization chart. It points toward Africa and Madagascar. This is certainly not what the much referred to 1958 geophysical year discovered in soundings. It is amazing this map has been touted as "exactly what Antarctica would look like if the covering ice were removed."

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Voila! The real Antarctica.

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The imaginary Mer Glaciale on the chart. A Note on the chart suspected it was even bigger than this (the "inner harbor" of the rivers) in order to contain all the flow of the rivers which then froze creating the huge icebergs. They then made their way out of the Mer into the ocean by Cap de la Circoncision. This was suspected, while the above shape was merely Conjecturée.

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The course of the frigates charted between the icebergs at Cap de la Circoncision . Above, it reads "The view of 3 Dec, 1738; Sounded all the area from December 3 until February 4 without finding any bottom." The line shows their course back to Cape of Good Hope, Africa.

firebird

27-08-2003, 10:32 AM

PIRI REI'S MAP

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Below: Color Map: The southern east coast of Argentina curved sideways. The area in the square below coincides geographically with the land contours at the bottom of the Piri Reis map (left) underlined in red. Piri Reis map shows a correct and continuous shoreline along the north and east coast of South America. One can see the Amazon, and then past the "hub" of Brazil one can follow the shoreline down to the river with three heads (Rio Plata) and then follow it along Argentina, where, on the Piri Reis map, the cartographer bent it eastward to keep it on the paper. For some odd reason some have claimed this is Antarctica before the ice age, indicating the map is based on prehistoric originals. This would mean Antarctica is in the South Atlantic, connected to Uruguay, and that there is no Argentina.

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The Piri Re'is map, prepared in 1513 for Piri Ibn Haji Mehmed of the Turkish fleet. Library of Congress.

Possibly some of the wildest assertions made for a prehistoric supercivilization, for an Atlantean world culture, or for ancient UFO visitations of the Earth, are on behalf of the Piri Re'is Map, a map made in 1513 for an "Amir al bar" (Admiral) of the Turkish Navy. This map was found when Topkapi Palace in Istanbul, the former residence of the deposed Sultans, was being converted into a museum in 1929.
The Ancient Astronaut theory was popularized by Erich von Däniken in his Chariots of the Gods, 1969. Von Däniken observed: "The maps are absolutely accurate . . .The coasts of North and South America and even the contours of the Antarctic were also precisely delineated on Piri Reis' maps. The maps not only reproduced the outlines of the continents but also showed the topography of the interiors!
. . .The latest studies of Professor Charles H. Hapgood and mathematician Richard W. Strachan give us some more shattering information. Comparison with modern photographs of our globe taken from satellites showed that the originals of the Piri Reis maps must have been aerial photographs taken from a very great height."
Charles Berlitz added the Atlantean connection in The Bermuda Triangle in 1974. "The Piri Reis Map found in Istanbul in 1929, part of a world map said to have been copied from a Greek original in the Library of Alexandria. Among other features, the Piri Reis map shows detailed features of Antarctica evidently drawn several thousand years before Antarctica was "discovered," as well as the true shape of Antarctica without the covering ice. Other features indicate an advanced knowledge of astronomy, trigonometry, and the ability to determine longitude, not known to our culture until the reign of George III of England."
Many books and magazines have echoed such ideas. Again, as late as 1995 in his Finger Print of the Gods, Graham Hancock used the Piri Re'is Map as evidence for the possibility of a prehistoric supercivilization. He said: " . . .the true enigma of this 1513 map is not so much its inclusion of a continent not discovered until 1818 [Antarctica] but its portrayal of part of the coast line of that continent under ice free conditions which came to an end 6,000 years ago and have not since recurred."
Again, as with the Buache Map, all of those above could extend some scientific credibility to their points of view from the 1965 work of Prof. Charles Hapgood, in his Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings, in which he postulated the map was drawn not only from Greek maps of 400 B.C., but from much older maps as well, preceding 4,000 B.C. in that nebulous era of "prehistory" before our culture's records begin in Sumeria and Egypt. However, the extent that pseudo science has taken his work, and added thereto is incredible. Hapgood himself had some very novel theories, for which he was ridiculed.
In fact, the Piri Reis map was made in 1513, as the map itself says in Turkish. It does not show Antarctica at all. The land mass at the bottom of the map is so obviously connected to South America because it is South America. One can follow the coast line of South America quite well. The cartographer merely bent it around to keep it on the same swatch of paper.
As for the advanced astronomy and trigonometry: this myth comes from von Däniken's believe that the curving of South America at the bottom of the map indicates that this was a copy of an ancient satellite photo taken over Cairo, from which vantage point South America would look distorted and curved. Hapgood himself had said that the Andes drawn on the map showed they were mapped from sea-level. To top it off, von Däniken did, on one occasion, renounce his point of view but then retracted his retraction again.
Graham Hancock's use of the map is the most surprising, since long before the 1990s von Däniken's ideas, including those on the Piri Reis map, had been soundly countered by Dr. Clifford Wilson's Crash Go The Chariots and Ron Story's Space Gods Revealed. Von Däniken's research methods themselves were scrutinized by the German magazine Der Spiegel, culminating in their stunning exposé of his third book Gold of the Gods, in which von Däniken claimed to have been taken through a maze of deeply buried tunnels in isolated Ecuador by distinguished local scientist Juan Moricz.
Von Däniken records: "We slid down a rope to the first platform 250 feet below the surface. From here we made 2 further descents of 250 feet. Then our visit to the age old underworld of a strange unknown race really began. The passages all formed perfect right angles. Sometimes they are narrow, sometimes wide. The walls are smooth and often seemed to be polished. The ceilings are flat and at times look as if they were covered with a kind of glaze. Obviously they did not originate from natural causes— they look more like modern air raid shelters!"
"As I was feeling and examining ceilings and walls, I burst out laughing and the sound echoed through the tunnels. Moricz shone his torch on my face:
"What's wrong? Have you gone crazy?"
"I'd like to see the archeologist with the nerve to tell me that this was done with hand axes!"
Von Däniken went on to describe all sorts of anachronisms: unusual gold trinkets, seven chairs of what seemed to be plastic, and thousands of metal tablets which might have contained the sum total of humanity's prehistory.

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Der Spiegel's November 12, 1973 issue. The German requires no translation.

Der Spiegel traveled to Ecuador and asked Juan Moricz. In response to Der Spiegel's question: "Mr. Moricz, in his most recent book, Erich von Däniken claims to have descended with you into a secret cave world in Ecuador," Moricz replied "Däniken has never been in the caves– unless it was in a flying saucer."
According to Moricz, Däniken pulled the information out of him after hours of grilling him about all the local legends of the caves.
Der Spiegel's November 1973 issue (left) sums up their findings. "The Däniken Swindle."
There is nothing remarkable in the Piri Reis map regarding ancient UFO pictures. Those who have promoted this notion have consistently shown themselves unreliable. Or what is the modern vernacular? "honesty challenged."
As regards supercivilization or Atlanteans, there is even less evidence. The contours of the Piri Reis map hardly show itself to be a photographic copy or even a high skilled map drawn by Atlanteans— the whole Gulf of Mexico and Cuba are absent. As the map above by the Reis map shows, there is no Antarctic, so there is no pre 6,000 year old charting evidence on the map.

firebird

27-08-2003, 10:33 AM

However, I've found that the Piri Reis Map does show something that is quite surprising and unexpected, something that makes it relevant to the study of the Bermuda Triangle and the Cayce Atlantis/Bahama Bank connection. Following the coastline of South America northward one can easily distinguish the Windward and Leeward islands, Puerto Rico, then the island of Hispaniola (of which share modern Haiti and Dominican Republic). North of this there is a large island, which does not exists today. This is where the Great Bahama

Bank is now submerged. Now, cartographers often marked areas on maps with something distinctive, like a type of bird, sometimes cannibals, unique animals, lamas, elephants, etc., anything to indicate a dominant feature of that region. It is fascinating that this large island is marked by a row of huge polygonal stones not unlike those off Bimini! (See the blowup below.)
This makes one wonder just how long the Bahama Banks have been underwater if during the time of Columbus the great stones could easily be seen as a salient feature of land on this island. They rest under only 18 feet of water today. Since the Gulf Stream was used as a main conveyor back to Spain, the Spanish came across Bimini very early on. Thus these probably are the Bimini stones, meaning the shoreline of Bimini was greater than today. A slow sinking of the Bahama shelf is not impossible. About 20 feet in 500 odd years is not extraordinary. What is that? – a centimeter or so per year. Makes you wonder who just did "discover" them, J Manson Valentine or the Spaniards. Probably the latter within the first 20 years of their voyages to the New World. If so, they did not sink thousands of years ago in a sudden catastrophe. They are, in this case, megalithic ruins that hardly represent anything a la the ambiguous readings of Edgar Cayce.
It may have been Columbus himself. His map of the New World later disappeared, and has gone down in lore as the "lost map of Columbus." The Piri Reis map is marked in the margin that it came from a map Columbus drew himself. The earliness of the Piri Reis' map seems probable since Cuba, the Gulf, and other more westerly areas do not appear on the map.
All of what its pseudoscientific promoters have claimed or suggested is clearly wrong, even ludicrous! The idea Antarctica is on the bottom of the map so lacks any logic as to be scary. There is far more evidence and inconsistencies in archeology to suggest a much more advanced prehistory than we at first imagine. But the search for this fascinating part of our species' past is wounded by fanciful "eager believers" trying to find "holy relics" for their preconceived ideas. They either lack the scientific discipline to pursue their goal, or they outright disregard it.

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The Island of Hispaniola can clearly be distinguished by its shape at the very bottom of the blowup left. Down the center of the big island north of it, in the center of the blowup, are huge polygonal stones lying prostrate. A few form a bulwark on the east coastline. Is this island Bimini, greatly exaggerated in size and disproportional? Or were the Bahamas about 20 feet higher than today, so that it was an archipelago of several large islands? If so, the Bimini stones, merely .5 mile or so from the coastline today, would have been above water in the time of Columbus. Old records in Madrid may hold the key. Perhaps a Spanish captain made comment on the strange stones which caused them to be considered a salient feature for the map maker of this mysterious island on the Piri Reis map.
On the map, in a marginal note, it states it is based on a map drawn by Columbus himself. If this was the "lost map of Columbus," whose mysterious disappearance was never solved, than the Piri Reis Map is the oldest map of the Americas. . . .and Bimini was already considered unusual.
In his Stones of Atlantis, Dr. David Zink notes that the original inhabitants of the Bahama area in Columbus' times were very much like the Taino tribe of Haiti. In 1645 Father Breton translated much of their language. Bimini meant "Island of the old wall," or "old ruins"— perhaps an indication that the Bimini wall was above water at the time or within recent memory. If so, its purpose has long been mysterious.

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Enlarged several times.

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Unfinished sketch showing the "J" curve in the "Bimini Road." The tip of the "J" is essentially finished. It shows how much dislodging of stones has taken place, something consistent with the powerful erosion of the breakers, an indication of slow sinking and breakwater wear but not sudden plunging.

firebird

27-08-2003, 10:39 AM

Third theory of Bermuda's Mystery:

TIME & BEING

What is Time? Is time merely our concept for the span in which events unfold, or is Time a part of the Universe, an integral force that, like a pacemaker, acts to set the temper for all things?
We still ponder at the invisible force fields around us: gravity and magnetism. Time, like gravity, remains a stuporing mystery. Is it tied in with these force fields? What is Time?
Measurments of gravity show the ponderies of shape and mass upon it. At the equator an object actually falls slower than at the poles.

Time seems influenced by the physical as well: extremely accurate atomic clocks, placed simultaneously at sea level and at high altitudes, have shown that those at a higher altitude actually record time passing faster, where gravity and magnetism are weaker. We are such a land bound species, we have little concept of potential beyond our own daily endeavor.
In our experience thus far, these vagaries seem only minute, as minute as the temperature changes on a spring day or in the slightly shifting breeze in the dead of summer: an atomic clock

was completely excavated he saw their full forms. They passed through the other wall and then were gone. Is this lunacy, or did the earth merely replay a scene captured in it 2000 years ago?
Some have thought that the tales of ghosts may stem from the earth having replayed an event, a passed life, a past moment, captured and recorded by it as we do with film today. How can that be? Are these just liars, cranks, or the superstitious? Or is the kernel of truth behind these tales telling us about the power of nature around us?
But how can it be? The earth has no camera, no film, no lens with which to record an event; no film upon which to store it, no camera to develop it, no projector to replay it.
The human body testifies to the power of harmony. We are the same chemicals and materials as all the Universe around us, made of the same building blocks, records the passing being faster higher up; an object falls slower at the equator.
But nature is subject to violent shifts: a summer breeze to a Santanna, a spring day to a sudden thunderstorm in which the changes are from one extreme to the opposite in the spectrum.

Is Time subject to the same storms? Being invisible, as is gravity and magnetism, how could we tell? What is its prelude? How is its advent? What are its after-affects? Would it affect nature? Would nature affect it?
Even sun spots affect our weather on earth, as do other solar forces. If force fields can affect weather, and shape and mass effect gravity, can they affect Time. . . .somehow, somewhere, no matter for how brief a moment?
Gravity can even affect the travel of light. Einstein predicted, and it has been empiracally observed, that gravity slows and therefore bends light. A star's light, even opposite the sun, can be bent by the massive helioshpere— the sun's gravitational field— so that its position actually changes from our perspective here on earth.
We know how fast light travels here on earth—186,000 miles per second— struggling with our gravitational field, then that of the sun's which cradles us. But how does it travel in intergalactic space . . .free of the sun's heliosphere?
In how many ways and by how many paths does light come to us from other galaxies, fighting and bending, slowing and speeding with the force fields it encounters?

A scientist named Ritz once did calculations based on the theory that light follows a Riemannian non euclidean geometry and that light from the farthest star would take only 17 years to get to earth. Barry Setterfield of Australia did tests in which light seemed to be slowing down.
Is Time being effected as well? Light is the expression of energy. Can Time change as the Universe slows or changes? Is Time being made suspectptible to anamolies as well as the other invisible forces of our universe it was not subject to before?
Magnetism is the longest studied geophysical data available. In the last 150 years this has showed an alarming decrease in the magnetic field, as much as 6 per cent. This field is responsible for shielding the earth from numerous dangerous solar forces. Is something warping Time?
Some years ago, a man in York, England, was working in a basement of a building which ran over an old Roman road. Suddenly, a troop of Romans marched through the wall, in full armour, completely oblivious to anything around them. Where the road was not completely excacvated he saw them from only the knees up. Where it

our tissues of the same acids, vitamins, minerals, fats, molecules and powerful electrical signals.
The human brain is more complex than anything man can comprehend. In our memories we can recall past events, in color, black & white and even technicolor. We can recalls sounds, smells, still pictures and in motion, of faces long stilled, hear voices long quieted. Our dreams are vivid spectacles, sometimes frightening but also pictures of places and past events and make-believe scenes. How can the brain do it? It has no lens, no film, no camera, no projector, but it replays pictures, moving and still, with little difficulty? . . .How can the earth do it?
Existence is so complex even the simplest form of life beggar our imagination. "To grasp the reality of life as it has been revealed by molecular biology, we must magnify a cell a thousand million times until it is twenty kilometers in diameter and resembles a giant airship large enough to cover a great city like London or New York. What we would then see would be an object of unparrelled complexity and adaptive design. On the surface of the cell we would see millions of openings, like the port holes of a vast space ship, opening and closeing to allow a continual stream of materials to flow in and out. If we were to enter one of these openings we would find ourselves in a world of supreme technology and belwidlering complexity . . . Is it really credible that random processes could have constructed a reality, the smallest elements of which—a functional protein or gene—is complex beyond our own creative capacities, a reality which is the very antithesis of chance, which excels in every sense anything produced by the intelligence of man?" —Dr. Michael Denton, Phd Microbiology.
Beyond the cell is the complexity of things not seen—gravity, magnetism . . .Time. "Softly, softly, they creep about us" to paraphrase Lewis Carroll. They leave a teasing trail of themselves, one quietly points to the other then flees before we can ponder.
Black holes exist in space, where gravity is so strong the light cannot escape, where not even time can be registered for the clock would stop, where everything vanishes. Just of what is the Universe capable and all its elements?
Even now in the 21st century we are as babes. It is not so bad that we do not know all things, but it is unforgivable that we do not even suspect that these things can possibly be.

firebird

27-08-2003, 10:50 AM

Fourth theory of Bermuda's Mystery :

Gas...Oh, gas! . . .and bad gas at that!

Although Dr. Ben Clennell, of Leeds University, England, is not the first to make note of the possibility of methane hydrates as a source for causing ships to disappear, he has become identified with the theory which, on September 21, 1998, at the Festival of Earth Sciences at Cardiff, Wales, he proposed methane hydrates as the future of energy.

http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/Theories/Methane_Hydrates/Methaneart.gif

As a part of his elaborate disertation he claimed that methane locked below the sea sediments in the Bermuda Triangle can explain the mysterious disappearances. He told how subterranean landslides can unlock the vast beds of methane hydrate. This would be disastrous, he told the audience, because large amounts of methane would reduce the density of the water. “This would make any ship floating above sink like a rock.” He went on to explain how the highly combustible gas could also ignite aircraft engines and blow them to pieces.
This theory was promoted in a semi-serious way by the press at first, but it later came to be dubbed the “Ocean Flatulence Theory,” and in some quarters earned its vociferous proponent the unenviable and humorous nickname of Dr. Flatus.
The theory is lacking for several reasons. One, the Bermuda Triangle is not the area of largest concentration of Methane Hydrates in the world. There are a lot off the Carolinas which, if this is in the Triangle, it depends on your own particular shape for the area. Two, the majority of ships and planes have not disappeared over this section of the “Triangle.” Three, a number of drilling rigs have in fact accidentally bored into beds of methane hydrates and slowly succumbed to the less dense water, sinking to the bottom. However, none of this was so fast that they could not signal their problem, and on a number of occasions news helicopters circling overhead captured every moment on film—but none of them blew to pieces.

This theory must rate as one of the most impromtu ideas conceived.
Since “news” implies anything new or odd, it is not surprising the idea
got around. It’s unfortunate that some people equate that with
credibility.

Fanciful idea of how a ship could suddenly plunge to the bottom. Methane Hydrate is a cage-like lattice of ice which contains methane molecules. Methane is a natural gas, but it freezes at temperatures higher than regular ice. Methane hydrates exist all over the world, both under land and under the ocean, but only at depths below 1,000 feet from the sea surface. Studies indicate there could be as much as 200 trillion cubic feet of this gas hydrate for US energy use alone. Worldwide estimates of the hydrate beds project 400 million trillion cubic feet exist. This dwarfs the estimates for natural gas which is only 5000 trillion cubic feet. If gas hydrates can account for the missing in the Bermuda Triangle, they should be causing 10 times the disappearances all around the world considering the vast beds beneath!
There are others in geology who stress that a natural eruption would be so rare it might happen only once every 400 years. They also remind one that the methane has to go through thousands of feet of sediment, thousands of feet of ocean, before it breaks the surface. The chances of a ship being over the precise spot is mathematically astronomical. And it is obvious that no planes are affected by this.

http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/Theories/Methane_Hydrates/methanerig.gif

Going down! A rig bored unexpectedly into methane hydrate beds. In 1981, the drilling vesel Glomar Challenger unexpectedly drilled into a methane bed off Guatemala. For the first time it was able to recover a sample intact. The ship was unaffected and did not sink.
The theory gained circulation probably because it was something new, and because both the public and Dr. Clennell had a complete ignorance where most planes and ships disappeared in the Triangle. Such a rare occurrence cannot account for the hundreds of losses over the last centuries, nor explain any aircraft disappearances. It also cannot explain those that vanished over the Bahamas, where the water depths are only 50 feet or so deep, not 1,000 feet. During his dissertation, Clennell admitted that he discovered large beds of methane on the coast line “near the Bermuda Triangle” which is itself enough rebuttal. Near may matter in horse shoes and hand grenades, but not for ships and planes.
This cold gas is all hot air.

Nikita55

27-08-2003, 11:28 AM

wow 4 teori segitiga bermuda yang hebat

teori pertama mengindikasikan bahwa hilangnya kapal ato pesawat itu karena ada kejanggalan magnetik sehingga mengacaukan arah.. sehingga kapal atau pesawat berputar-putar saja, gitu?

teori kedua : buache map... hmmm... completely lost me....
bingung

teori ketiga: time and being.. jadi yang masuk ke segitiga bermuda seakan-akan stuck dan berputar-putar terus di area itu tanpa tau bahwa mereka sebenarnya tidak pernah keluar?
aneh.... emangnya ada kapal ato pesawat yang terus-terusan bisa hidup tanpa berhenti...
terus tentang adanya hantu di segitiga bermuda, gak jelas juga..

teori keempat : tentang adanya senyawa methan di laut, sehingga kapal yang berlayar akan tenggelam dengan tiba-tiba..

aku pikir keempat teori itu gak terlalu bisa menjelaskan secara benar tentang keanehan di segitiga bermuda...

hebat, firebird.. kamu bisa dapet informasi seperti ini..
lumayan bisa belajar dikit.. walau akhirnya jadi pusing....

firebird

27-08-2003, 02:01 PM

Yg Buache dan Priri Rei's Map lebih berfungsi sebagai evidence buat pendukung teori pertama. Di sini dibahas pergeseran lempengan daratan benua di Amerika. Sehingga terjadinya ketidakstabilan gravitasi di beberapa daerah tertentu. Di sini kita tahu bahwa lempeng benua Amerika Selatan berpisah dengan benua Afrika. Dimana hasil perpisahan itu timbul yg namanya samudra Atlantik. Pernah dengar legenda Atlantis kan? Nah di Buache Map dijelaskan Benua Antartika yg bergeser(dulunya di khatulistiwasekarang bergeser di Kutub Selatan). Ini bisa menjelaskan juga kena banyak fosil btumbuhan dan binatang tropis di Antartika. Itu juga bisa menjelaskan mengapa poros bumi berbeda 15 derajat. Jadi tidak mengherankan kalau sebenarnya dulu Bahama Triangle adalah Kutub Utara, dengan asumsi Antartika terletak di lintang Khatulisitwa. Jadi tidak mengherankan gravitasi di daerah Bahama Triangle mempunyai daya magnetik yang berbeda. Dan Piri Rei's Map bisa menjelaskan pergeseran lempeng benua Amerika Selatan dan Afrika. Dan kedua peta tersebut juga bisa menjeleskan timbulnya zaman Es dan berakhirnya zaman Es. Semoga penjelasan sederhana ini dapat berguna untuk masukkan Thread ini.

Thanx untuk Nikita55 buat kesimpulannya.:) ::bye::

Valmighty

27-08-2003, 07:08 PM

gw dulu pernah denger ada seorang pilot dari jaman PD II lewat di segitiga bermuda. abis itu tdk diketahui nasibnya. trus tahun 90an awal2 ada pilot tdk dikenal naek pesawat kunooo bgt (pesawat jaman PD II). stlh diselidiki dia itu pilot yg hilang pas jaman PD II itu. masih muda, blom ada tanda2 ketuaan.

teorinya dia kesedot melewati batas time n space dari masa PD II ke masa depan (masa skr).

kyknya pernah dimuat di koran mana gitu...

Nikita55

28-08-2003, 07:12 AM

Oh iya aku juga pernah denger tuh tentang pilot itu..
dulu sekali...
aneh bin ajaib...
beneran tuh orang dari segitiga bermuda?
apa bukan orang yang cari sensasi..
gimana kabarnya dia sekarang, udah hidup bahagia ato malah jadi obyek observasi para ilmuwan yang gemes pengen tau tentang segitiga bermuda.... kalo iya.. kasihan betul..

buat firebird, thanks for enlighten me about the second theory.

hehe jadi malu kamu komentar gitu tentang kesimpulan yang aku bikin.... kalo kesimpulannya salah, maaf ya..
abis aku baca teori yang kamu tulis itu sambil ngerjain tugas lain..
panjang banget sih..
tapi aku suka.. dapet dari buku apa tuh teorinya? jadi pengen baca lebih banyak.

firebird

28-08-2003, 12:42 PM

Untuk yg berminat mengetahu sedetail-detailnya tentang Bermuda Triangle Mystery bisa langsung lihat ke :

BERMUDA TRIANGEL MYSTERY (http://www.bermuda-triangle.org)

Semoga dapat menambah wawasan kita, thx::bye::

Valmighty

28-08-2003, 09:16 PM

bisa tolong ditranslate dan diringkasin mas? ;D

dah science nya ruwet, bahasanya alien pulak:D

KotaroShindo

29-08-2003, 10:39 AM

menarik juga site nya.
btw, pernah ada gak sih penelitian yg memberikan jawaban yg cukup jelas tentang bermuda triangle? maksud gw bukan hanya teori dan pendapat saja gitu,

Valmighty

01-09-2003, 05:51 AM

blom ada. kalo dah ada namanya bukan "misteri" segitiga bermuda lagi:D

misalnya pun dah ada yg tau jawabnya dan jawabannya itu serem, paling2 jg dirahasiakan ama pihak2 tertentu (jadi X-files, dll):D

LeLuna

06-09-2003, 02:08 PM

yang gw percaya [YANG GW PERCAYA LHOOO]

Misteri di sana ngga akan pernah terbongkar. kalaupun misterinya udah mulai kebuka kulitnya, mereka ngga akan pernah menyentuh bagian tengahnya. karena kalau ketauan, keseimbangan-keseimbangan yang tercipta bakal runtuh. oh well, don't take my words seriously. it's just one of my looney thoughts..

Valmighty

10-09-2003, 01:59 AM

mungkin di situlah surga berada (atau neraka?) :D

Riovasky

10-09-2003, 06:53 AM

yang diatas gue udah ngelantur abis... :D:D:D

DemonDarod

10-09-2003, 08:59 PM

jangan-jangan ada sejenis blackhole dibumi... kan klo blackhole ngisep benda ampe ilang gara2 waktunya berhenti/mejadi pelan... nah ini kan kebalikkannya... ada orang dari masa lalu ke masa depan artinya waktunya "berjalan" jadi lebih lambat...

Valmighty

11-09-2003, 10:43 PM

bisa jadi.

PitBull

13-09-2003, 10:55 PM

blackhole itu bintang mati ! saking kuat magnet nya semua massa ditarik, sampai cahaya juga ditarik sehingga gak kelihatan apa2 di black hole. konon katanya satu titik kelereng di black hole = massa 1 kota new york beserta isinya.

Hantu

15-09-2003, 11:26 AM

Setau gua sih zaman sekarang ini Segitiga Bermuda kalah misterius dibandingkan dengan Segitiga G-String. :)

firebird

15-09-2003, 02:01 PM

Ada satu lagi pemikiran gila, bermuda triangle itu adalah taman Eden yg ada di cerita Alkitab. ;p

Hantu

15-09-2003, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by devitoitaliano
banyak yang uda pernah coba kesana tapi tidak pernah kembali
ada yang bilang di segitiga bermuda ada black hole yang menghisap apa saja di sekitarnya dan black hole itu adalah lubang yang menuju keluar angkasa

mungkin ada yang punya informasi lain tentang misteri ini
atau mungkin ada yg uda tau kebenarannya?

Cuma buat informasi aja, tidak benar bahwa banyak yang udah coba ke sana (maksudnya, Bermuda Triangle kan?) dan tidak pernah kembali. Kenyataannya traffic di area ini mencapai ribuan setiap harinya. :)

Di tol Kebun Jeruk di Jakarta juga setiap hari banyak kecelakaan, tapi tol Kebun Jeruk ga sampai masuk CNN atau terkenal dengan The Orange Freeway. Jadi yang membuat Bermuda Triangle ini terkenal bukanlah orang ke sana hilang, atau kecelakaan, tapi memang ada beberapa kasus yang sensasional dan sulit dicari penjelasannya.

Memang banyak teori yang dibuat untuk menjelaskan, tapi teori black hole adalah (sorry banget) salah satu yang paling ga masuk akal, karena kalo beneran ada black hole di kawasan itu, pasti semua yang lewat sana tertarik masuk (termasuk air laut, ikan dan sodara-sodara Nemo lainnya), ga cuma persentase kecil dari traffic di sana. (Note: Terlepas dari kaitannya dengan Bermuda Triangle, Black Hole sendiri juga merupakan "teori", yang artinya belum dapat dibuktikan secara nyata keberadaannya.)

Anyway, keep on posting. Gua suka nih baca ginian, inget waktu kecil ketika imajinasi sedang tinggi-tingginya (Duh...Pamela....!!)

PitBull

15-09-2003, 07:00 PM

konon atlantik letaknya disana tuh

Hantu

15-09-2003, 09:24 PM

Teori yang mengatakan kota Atlantis pernah di sana juga tidak benar, karena tidak pernah ditemukan bukti apapun bahwa kota Atlantis pernah berdiri di sana. (Note: Keberadaan Atlantis sendiri tak pernah dapat dibuktikan keberadaannya selain terdapat di dalam dialoque Plato.)

Keberadaan Atlantis sendiri dapat jadi thread baru. ::bye::

PitBull

15-09-2003, 09:58 PM

emang udah ada ekspedisi penelitian ke bermuda ya? makanya dipastikan atlantis gak disana?

Hantu

16-09-2003, 02:41 AM

Yup, banyak ekspedisi yang telah ke sana baik untuk untuk khusus menyelediki kemisteriusan kawasan ini, ataupun cuma kebetulan lewat, serta turis yang penasaran.

Sekedar gambaran buat yang belum tau, Bermuda Triangle adalah area segitiga khayalan (imaginary) yang terbentuk bila ditarik garis antara Pulau Bermuda (S. Atlantis), Miami (Florida, AS)dan San Juan (Puerto Rico). Jadi kawasan ini bukan kawasan angker gimana gitu....bahkan nanti kalo punya duit, gua pengen main ke sana lagi....laut Bahama dengan gadis-gadis nanti sexy...

Gua cerita dikit deh kalo boleh. Di kawasan ini sebenarnya telah banyak timbul cerita-cerita aneh. Salah satu yang pertama adalah oleh Christopher Columbus sebelum dia 'menemukan' benua Amerika, dalam catatan pelayarannya dia menyatakan melihat beberapa kejanggalan di atas perairan kawasan itu. (Detil ceritanya agak panjang, ngetiknya capek. :D)

Tapi kawasan itu pertama kali membuat masyarakat modern menjadi heboh ketika terjadi peristiwa yang disebut "Flight 19". Dalam peristiwa tersebut, 5 pesawat modern AS saat itu (Avenger) terbang melewati kawasan itu mendadak hilang setelah sempat berkomunikasi dengan ground. Setelah ke-5 Avenger itu lenyap, AL AS mengirim 2 pesawat PBM untuk melacak keberadaan ke-5 Avenger tersebut, namun 1 dari PBM itu pub lenyap. Dan tidak pernah ditemukan bangkai pesawat-pesawat tersebut. Selang beberapa tahun, tak jauh dari kawasan tersebut memang ditemukan 5 bangkai pesawat Avenger, namun ke-5 bangkai tersebut bukanlah Avenger yang lenyap.

Ada cerita lain yang menghebohkan dan disangkutpautkan dengan Bermuda Triangle, yaitu kapal Marie Celeste. Ini adalah legenda laut. Anehnya, sebenarnya saat hilangnya Marie Celeste tidak berada di kawasan itu tapi selalu disangkutkan orang. Kemisteriusan episode ini adalah, kapal tersebut ditemukan kosong tanpa ada satu orangpun sementara semua yang di kapal (perabotan, makanan masih hangat, dsbnya) menandakan kapal dalam keadaan baik dan tidak ada keributan (pemberontakan awak) atau apa pun. Sekoci kapal pun masih ada.

Gitu deh, sekilas ceritanya. Nanti kalo mau, dan sempat, gua cerita lagi, ok? Ciao !:D