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bintangkecil
23-02-2001, 08:21 PM
kan banyak cerita yang beredar tentang mahluk nocturnal ini. dan sekarang kampungnya bahkan jadi objek wisata. katanya sekampung pada dandan kayak jaman hidupnya si count drac. legenda dracula ini emang fascinating. ada yang udah pernah kesono? atau tahu sejarahnya yang unik selain yang udah umum kita ketahui (misalnya dari buku bram stoker)?
katanya sampe sekarang masih banyak lho pengikutnya. sampe bikin perkumpulan dan minum darah secara rutin pulak!
cerita yuk.......
LiMp_Biz_k1T
23-02-2001, 09:50 PM
huuaahhh setau gue makhluk penghisap darah tuh nyamuk dehh ::bingung::
kapten nemo
23-02-2001, 11:04 PM
dulu kan di intisari luaaamaaa pernah dimuat feature ttg drakula. pernah baca?
butaqiu
23-02-2001, 11:56 PM
gua barusan liat di gramedia
ada buku pintarnya ttg vampire dsb.
karangan rijanto tosin.
tebel tapi mahal.
nggak jadi beli deh.
ada yang punya dan mau menceritakannya?
hansel
24-02-2001, 03:00 AM
Vampire gak doyan garlic, gue juga gak doyan garlic. [i]Glek! Jangan-jangan... ::ngg::
hansel
24-02-2001, 03:17 AM
"Vampires"
An undead that rises from the grave during the night to drink the blood of the living in order to stay 'alive'. Generally the word 'undead' refers to a creature that should be dead but is still active within the realm of the living.
The word 'vampire' comes from the Slavic word 'obyri' or 'obiri', which evolved into the Bulgarian word 'vampir'. Although sources differ greatly, some say that the Greek word nosophoros (which means 'plague-carrier') that evolved into the Old Slavonic word 'nosufur-atu' is a synonym for the word 'vampire'. In our culture, the words 'vampire' and 'nosferatu' are interchanged often.
Birth of a Legend
The vampire is truly a global creature, with myths related to the dead which rise to drink the blood of the living coming out of cultures all around the world. From Africa to Japan to Spain and the UK, the vampire has held humans enthralled for centuries. Nowhere, however, do we see more vampire folklore than in the stories of the Slavic people. Perhaps the reason for this is the historically high population of gypsies in that area. The migration of the gypsies has been traced back across the continent to northern India, where the religion had a cast of certain bloodthirsty deities (such as the Goddess Kali) and creatures (such as a bhutu). It has been theorized that with this as a base of folklore, the gypsies picked up bits and pieces of other legends as they migrated toward the north-west and as a result, altered the folklore of the Slavic nations.
According to legend, the victims of a vampire either dies or becomes a vampire. Vampires could also be made in a variety of ways: a child born under certain omens, a cat or other animal jumping over a dead body, someone who committed suicide, and practising witchcraft are some activities thought to be the cause of vampirism. Even inanimate objects and animals were thought to be able to become vampires: pumpkins, watermelons and other fruit that was left out past a certain amount of time, latches that were left unlatched too long, dogs, horses, sheep and snakes are among the objects with vampiric potential in older superstitions of the Slavic gypsy community.
Vampires were thought to be able to take the form of a bat, or many other animals, as well as a mist. They were able to control creatures like rats and wolves, and the elements were at their command. Some kinds of vampires were thought to be endowed with the ability to fly. Most all vampires of legend slept either in coffins, or returned to the earth to sleep in their grave. Among other superstitions, vampires were supposed to need to return to the earth from their homeland each night, could not cross running water, could not see their reflection in a mirror, could not enter a place uninvited, and could not tolerate the symbol of the Christian crucifix (amen to that!).
In order to protect yourself from a vampire, the cross or crucifix was thought to be the most powerful in the Christian countries. Little is known of how holy symbols were used as vampire protection before the Christian era, however, folk-cures were often employed. Garlic was the most popular vampire repellent, as well as hawthorn and the mountain ash (rowan). Another defense was scattering seeds- vampires were supposed to become so involved in counting every single seed (surely that vampire has got nothing better to do :D) that they would either lose interest, or be caught counting even as the sun came up. Surprisingly, silver was not as traditional a protective metal as supposed in popular fiction- iron was the material of choice. Iron shavings were placed beneath a child's cradle, a necklace with an iron nail was worn, and other iron objects were placed strategically around the place needing protection.
Once a vampire was discovered, it could be destroyed by cremation, cutting off its head, exposing it to sunlight or by driving a stake through its heart. Other superstitions told that a vampire could be destroyed by touching it with a crucifix, drenching it in holy water and garlic (I, too, will be powerless if somebody drenching me in garlic water =() stealing his left sock, filling it with stones and throwing it in a river, or using a dhampir, or a vampire's child. Dhampirs were allegedly the only people who were able to see invisible vampires, and they often took advantage of this by hiring out their services as vampire hunters.
In Literature
Vampires were popularized by the British author Bram Stoker with his story of Count Dracula, a Transylvanian vampire, in 1897. The story was probably based on Vlad Tepes, a medieval character of exceptional bloodthirst. He supposedly impaled his enemies (hence his nickname Vlad the Impaler) and cut off their heads. He ruled Walachia as Vlad III in the 15th century, which is now part of Romania. He signed his letters with Vlad Dracula, which can be translated as Vlad, son of the dragon or son of the devil ::devil:: His father was called 'Dracul' because he had a dragon depicted on his coat of arms.
Before Stoker, vampire literature was rare, but existent. Perhaps the most popular pre-"Dracula" stories were "Carmilla" by J. Sheridan Le Fanu; "Varney The Vampire" by James Malcolm Rymer; and "The Vampyre; A Tale", by John Polidori.
Modern Vampires
Vampires today, as they are often portrayed in modern day literature, are much different than the vampires of old. They do not necessarily have the same limitations the vampires from legends had. Garlic offers no protection against them, they are supposed to be able to walk during the day, and sometimes are not considered to be undead, but another species of humans. They usually still have extraordinary powers: their strength and speed surpasses that of humans, and their senses are heightened to a preternatural level. The need for blood, however, has not diminished, in spite of how we have seen in the last twenty years a trend toward a conscientious vampire who is tormented by his/her own humanity.
Credit for many of the modern innovations with the vampire myth must go to Anne Rice, who is the author of the immensely popular "Vampire Chronicles", a 5 book series concerning a vampire named Lestat. The 1st book from the series "Interview with the Vampire" was made into a movie in 1994, and joined the ranks of many other vampire movies made over the decades. Bela Lugosi will always be remembered as the first Count Dracula on the big screen, and he is primarily responsible for the popular wealthy aristocrat appearance, black cape, fangs, widows peak, and Transylvanian accent that is so characteristic of the vampire stereotype.
Breathing un-life into the vampire culture recently has been "Vampire: The Masquerade", a role-playing game published by the company White Wolf. Done in a Dungeons & Dragons fashion, people gather to develop vampire characters within the guidelines, and then successfully carry their character throughout a 'story' according to the rules. "Masquerade" enthusiasts often gather in small groups or in large organized story-telling sessions to actually become a living part of the vampire legend.
Sapta Nugraha
24-02-2001, 09:52 AM
eeeehhh selamat datang bintang .. duuuh senangnya warungku ditengok .. ayoo .. ayoo .. cerita-cerita yaa .. :)
:D :D
tukanggossip
24-02-2001, 03:45 PM
btw, kalo darahnya bukan darah manusia termasuk vampire gak ? soalnya di mbali kan ada makanan yg namanya lawar yg pake darah segar-bugar dari salah satu binatang...;(
bintangkecil
24-02-2001, 11:00 PM
gue herannya kok bisa garlic ya yang dianggap ditakutin ama vampire. emang gue juga udah baca banyak buku anne rice. dan disana dia mematahkan semua mitos. vampire can enter church, gak takut sama crucifix, trus gak takut garlic. bisa meliat sinar matahari buat yang kuat (emang mereka lemah kalo pagi:D, tapi gak semua vampire takut ama matahari)....
gue juga liat sih buku vampire itu di gramedia. tapi kovernya jelek. jadi malas beli...
keberadaan mereka ini apa cuman mitos atau juga di akui sama lembaga agama (gereja)?
hansel
25-02-2001, 05:03 AM
Kalo ada vampire di posisi gue saat ini pasti udah defeated deh! Cowok Russian di belakng gue baunya minta ampun! Huek! =(
terabozu
25-02-2001, 05:10 AM
Huek tapi elo kok betah2 aja sih dibelakangnya? malah sambil posting? :D
-terabozu-
hansel
25-02-2001, 05:24 AM
Pan sambil nutup 'idung Nasal voice
morningdew
25-02-2001, 10:16 AM
gue nonton film horor pertama tuh ttg vampire, judulnya Kiss Of A Vampire, way back in 1978. kalo gak salah yg main John Gavin. gileeeee....seremnyaaaaaaaa....:D:D:D
billie
25-02-2001, 12:07 PM
di indonesia
banyak vampire :(
ImAgInE
25-02-2001, 12:33 PM
Pacet termasuk makhluk pengisap darah khan :) :) ,o,ya numpang liwat,sekalian mo ngisi daptar absensi ,yaaaa
LiMp_Biz_k1T
25-02-2001, 09:22 PM
pacet tuh temennya lintah bukan ? ::bingung::
EnzoFerrari
28-02-2001, 10:26 PM
hohoy... ada yang pernah liat vampirenya orang hongkong belon???
ada filmnya kok!, judulnya mr.vampire
ada yang pernah nonton?? kalo gwe bilang sih, filmnya menyeramkan... ::ah:: ;0;0
Merdeka ;D
bintangkecil
28-02-2001, 11:01 PM
iya banget!! tuh film2 vampire hongkong (tapi yang pertama) emang lumayan nakutin. gue nontonnya pas masih smp.
kalo yang sekarang2 mah udah komedi, malah ngeselin:D
dulu gue sempet nonton yang main tuh klaus kinsky (babenya natasha kinsky).. klo gak salah judulnya nosferatu?? atau itu sebutannya.. lupa gue... buset deh. mukanya si klaus itu desperate sekali ya? :D
bintangkecil
28-02-2001, 11:03 PM
tapi kan selama ini digambarin vampire/dracula itu tragic love story. dan selalu aja dia nyari ceweknya ini biarpun sampe berabad2....
kebayang gak kalo elu2 jadi the object of affectionnya mas vampire??? hiiiiii............
EnzoFerrari
01-03-2001, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by bintangkecil
tapi kan selama ini digambarin vampire/dracula itu tragic love story. dan selalu aja dia nyari ceweknya ini biarpun sampe berabad2....
kebayang gak kalo elu2 jadi the object of affectionnya mas vampire??? hiiiiii............
wah ;0;0 nggak ikutan deh kalo saya digigitin sama mbak yang disebelah.. padahal cewek lo.. hahahaah ::devil:: http://www.joblo.com/images/picdracula2000.jpg
Merdeka ;D
lygia
06-03-2001, 09:41 PM
'cil, kayaknye gue juga dah pernah nonton tuh Nosferatu, tapi gue kebanyakan tutupin muka pake bantal, maklum masih anak kecil :D
Vampire ama Werewolf masih sodaraan nggak!?!?!?
PS: kalo wolf nya kayak di Xmen, mau duonk digigit :D cakep sih doi! eheheheee.....
bintangkecil
07-03-2001, 01:44 AM
lyg, gue juga nontonnya pas masih kecil. cuman anehnya gue ingat itu muka si klaus kinsky kok merana be'eng ya? kayak kurang tidur en kurang makan..loyo beibeh...:D
werewolf lain lagi.. serigala jadi2an pan?
tapi gue juga mau digigit ama yang X-men punya:D:D
stephanie kunang
07-03-2001, 08:55 AM
loyo beibeh...ehm what an outstanding expression...
morningdew
07-03-2001, 11:09 AM
mau dooong ikutan digigit :D:D
bintangkecil
07-03-2001, 09:10 PM
hush! md... sana cuci kaki trus bobok....:D
lygia
08-03-2001, 08:22 PM
Hugh Jackman-the Wolverine in Xmen
http://www.geocities.com/hughjackmancom/publicity1.jpg
Kalo Wolverine-na kayak gini sapa juga yang ngga mau digigit! :D
Mas Wolv boleh pilih bagian tubuh saya yg mana yang mau digigit hihihii...
bintangkecil
08-03-2001, 09:38 PM
kok jadi parno ah si lygia:D
hati2 mad cow :D
silverjade
10-03-2001, 10:01 AM
Vampire or Dracula ya...?
Setauku sih dulu orang-orang di salah satu negara di Eropa (lupa negara mana) berpikir kalo' orang yang meninggal karena penyakit paru-paru itu akan jadi dracula,karena itu mayatnya ditusuk bagian jantungnya,untuk memastikan bahwa dia nggak akan bangun lagi (sadissss).Kalo' orang yang meninggal karena penyakit paru-paru itu jantungnya belum ditusuk,maka kuburnya akan digali untuk menusuk jantungnya )kejeeeemmmm)
Selain itu kadang ada gelandangan yang sebenernya belum meninggal,tapi kondisinya udah menyedihkan banget jadi dikira udah mati,kadang warga kota berbaik hati (niatannya :D )untuk menguburkannya.Eh,nggak taunya tuh orang masih idup,jadi dia terperangkap dalem peti mati di bawah tanah en berusaha untuk menggali keluar (terbukti dengan jari-jari yang jadi "keriting" pada saat kubur itu dibuka lagi untuk penelitian).Seringnya sih para gelandangan yang malang itu game over beneran pada tahap ini.Tapi ada juga yang berhasil keluar,meskipun amat jarang.Nah,malangnya...saat mereka berhasil keluar,mereka dikira hantu yang bangkit lagi oleh warga kota (kebayang kan ketakutannya yang ngeliat ,kalo' ada jenazah yang bangkit dari kubur)trus mereka beramai-ramai membunuh "hantu"itu agar tidak mencelakai warga.
bintangkecil
10-03-2001, 01:10 PM
iya, kayak makan buah simalakama aja...:D
gue jadi ingat ama cerita Edgar Allen Poe. si Poe ini pada jamannya sering kejadian salah kubur itu. makanya kalo dikubur suka dikasih lonceng. jadi klo ternyata belum mati tu lonceng dibunyiinlah.. nanti digali lagi...:D
eh, kepercayaan tentang vampire ini sering emang dikaitkan dengan penyakit tb (penyakit paru2) ya? katanya jaman dulu itu kalo ada keluarga mati karena tb, maka jantung/parunya di bakar dan abunya diminum.. ini gue liat di disc channel... ugh!!
silverjade
10-03-2001, 01:53 PM
Dari yang aku liat di acara sighthings dulu sih iya,tapi gak ampe' diminum (Hiiiy...!!!::ngg:: )
Tau deh kalo' aslinya.....
siLverwheeL
11-03-2001, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by bintangkecil
eh, kepercayaan tentang vampire ini sering emang dikaitkan dengan penyakit tb (penyakit paru2) ya? katanya jaman dulu itu kalo ada keluarga mati karena tb, maka jantung/parunya di bakar dan abunya diminum.. ini gue liat di disc channel... ugh!!
karena berkhasiat atau karena buat antibodi? ;D
bintangkecil
12-03-2001, 11:33 AM
kagak jelas juga.. kayaknya buat antibody kali...:D
kalo 'kuyang' termasuk kelompok dracula nggak ya ??
Tapi kaya'nya lebih seram kuyang tuh ...
silverjade
13-03-2001, 01:00 AM
kuyang apaan sih ?
Pompey
13-03-2001, 04:04 AM
Kalau cerita "romantis" diTransylvania dimana Pangeran Dracula pergi ke perang salib, kekasihnya mendpt kabar dia udah tewas, trus bunuh diri.Pas Dracula pulang ternyata sang kekasih udah meninggal, maka ia menjual dirinya pada setan, karena merasa diabaikan tuhan.. Kemudian dia menjadi Vampire karena mungkin sebagai hukuman (atau memang setengah setan), itu gimana? ::bingung::
hansel
13-03-2001, 06:20 AM
Eh, itu pan "Dracula"-nya Bram Stoker
LiMp_Biz_k1T
15-03-2001, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by silverjade
kuyang apaan sih ?
iyah niegh apaan tuh kuyang ???
bintangkecil
19-03-2001, 03:40 PM
kemaren di kompas minggu ada resensi buku vampire itu. yang ditulis ama orang indonesia... sapa ya yang bahas di halaman depan..:D lupa gue..
kayaknya super lengkap tuh.. si kunyuk, eh kuyang eh kunyang (ini sejenis kuntilanak/leak bukan?).. eh:D... itu aja ada lho.. sampe segala jenis setan2 mancanegara.
pake indeks segala katanya.. tapi mahal juga. ampir 80 ribu.
ponda
10-04-2001, 06:00 PM
DRACULA mahluk penghisap darah yg sangat menakutkan, mempunyai taring yg tajam sbg alatnya.{hhi hhi hhi serem}
latte
10-04-2001, 07:19 PM
emang vampire ada beneran???
bintangkecil
12-04-2001, 02:49 PM
who knows...:)
tapi sampe sekarang pengikutnya banyak. ikutan minum darah (nyolong pmi:D).. katanya semakin hari semakin bertambah tuh.. jadi semacam cult apa gerakan underground gitulah...
nutty
12-04-2001, 03:40 PM
hmmm..mithos bhw vampir anti garlic bener gak ya? kalo bener, berarti di itali dan cina gak ada vampir dong...padahal kan di dua negara itu banyak masakan pake garlic ?? sedang di anne rice, vampir tuh salah satu markasnya juga di itali ;(
nutty
12-04-2001, 03:45 PM
ehhh...nyolong di pmi??? itu vampir beneran apa org yg sengaja ikutan underground cult itu???
bintangkecil
12-04-2001, 09:30 PM
orang2 yang sengaja ikutan cult gitulah. katanya mereka meniru gaya hidup vampir dengan minum darah. kadang darah binatang..
klo garlic cuman mitos kali... ha ha.. soalnya di anne rice kan banyak mitos itu dipatahkan sama argumennya lestat. :D
anyway ini ada joke basi tentang si anak malam..
Dracula was killed one day & up he went to the Pearly Gates of Heaven to meet God. God refused to let Dracula in because of the sins that he had committed; such as going round ****ing blood and killing.
"I'll give you a chance to redeem your sins", said God. "I'll send you back to earth, BUT
not in a human form. You can only be reincarnated into any other living being of your choice. So, what would you like to be?"
Still unrepentant,Dracula said , "OK, I want to become a LIVING THING WITH WINGS & **** BLOOD, heh..heh..heh." So be it ",said God and He turned Dracula
into a VAMPIRE BAT.
So back to earth he went flying around ****ing the blood of animals until one day when he got killed by a farmer. Up he went again to meet God, feeling a little bit sheepish. "I'll give you another chance," said God, I'll send you back again BUT not as a human or a bat. What will it be this time?"
Still adamant, Dracula said, I'll still want to be a LIVING THING WITH WINGS AND **** BLOOD !" God thought for a while and then said,"OK, if that's what you want",and turned Dracula into a MOSQUITO.
So back to the earth again he went,flying around & ****ing blood until one day. SPLAT !
He was squashed by his victim. So up he went again to meet God.
Feeling stupid,"I'll give you one last chance to redeem yourself. BUT,this time you can't become a living thing.You can only be turned into a NON-LIVING THING of your choice. So what will it be?" asked God. Still acting stubborn, Dracula said, "Okay.... then turn me into a NON-LIVING THING WITH WINGS AND **** BLOOD!heh..heh...heh"
From that day on, Dracula became "WHISPER"ULTRA SLIM SANITARY NAPKIN..........!! WITH WINGS.
bintangkecil
12-04-2001, 09:35 PM
klo liat sitesnya organisasi vampire di internet wuih banyak banget. ada london vampire groups, st louis after dark, new jersey association of real vampires (yang slogannya gini nih.. dedicated for helping the real vampires in NJ area)... sampe vampire research society - founded by vampire hunter Sean Manchester, dedicated to the study of vampiroids and other phenomena.
hm.. menarik ya?
hansel
12-04-2001, 09:37 PM
Jadi vampire itu tidak mesti tebal & tidak mudah tembus ke samping ::devil::;D::devil:::D::devil::
bintangkecil
12-04-2001, 09:39 PM
kayaknya sites vampire research society ini cukup menarik lho diliat. gila, serius banget isinya.
eLiZa
15-04-2001, 12:22 PM
joke lagi yach ;p
Ada 3 drakula, mereka bikin kompetisi siapa yang
paling kejam dan sadis. Drakula yang paling muda dapet
kesempetan duluan. Tiba-tiba dia lari secepat kilat,
terus 2 menit udah balik lagi. Mukanya penuh lumuran
darah, seringainya serem. Terus dia ngomong : " Kalian
liat desa di seberang bukit itu ? "
Yang dua ngangguk, " Iya, liat "
" Desa itu .. habiissss !!!!"
Yang paling tua panas juga .. dia juga pergi
sekelebat, terus 1 menit udah balik, mukanya juga
penuh sama cucuran darah.
" Kalian liat kota yang itu ? ", katanya sambil
mukanya nunjukin kalo dia bangga bener.
" Iya, liat ", yang dua ngangguk juga.
" Kota itu juga habiiissssss !!! ", kata yang paling
tua sambil ketawa serem," ha ha ha hah ".
Drakula yang satunya lagi tambah panas, dia juga
pengen show off. Akhirnya dia juga lari sekelebat.
Temennya yang dua terperanjat, soalnya belum sampe
setengah menit dianya udah balik, dengan penuh cucuran
darah di mukanya ... Temennya yang dua membatin, "gila
ni drakula, sangar amat, ternyata dia yang paling
jago". Sambil ngos-ngosan dia teriak,
"Kalian liat tiang listrik dipas belokan sana ?"
" Liat! liat!", kata yang laen ..
"Asli .. gua kagak liat ", kata drakula yang benjol
itu.
eLiZa
15-04-2001, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by bintangkecil
gue herannya kok bisa garlic ya yang dianggap ditakutin ama vampire. emang gue juga udah baca banyak buku anne rice. dan disana dia mematahkan semua mitos. vampire can enter church, gak takut sama crucifix, trus gak takut garlic. bisa meliat sinar matahari buat yang kuat (emang mereka lemah kalo pagi:D, tapi gak semua vampire takut ama matahari)....
gue juga liat sih buku vampire itu di gramedia. tapi kovernya jelek. jadi malas beli...
keberadaan mereka ini apa cuman mitos atau juga di akui sama lembaga agama (gereja)?
Btw, kenapa yach gue dapet kesan bahwa si Anne Rice itu Anti-Christ???
Bukan karena mematahkan mitos2 yang ada but....
Well, gue baca 2 apa 3 yach dari 4 seri Vampire Chronicles-nya, masih punya satu yang belon gue baca.
Tapi yang bikin gue dapet kesan ini terutama pas baca yang seri ke berapa yach, pokoknya yang sampulnya ijo (gak tau kalo macem2 yach), trus ceritanya ttg Ratu Mesir itu, yang ada dua gadis kembar, satunya buta....
Pas itu kan ada vampire muda yang dibunuh, en dia dibunuh si Ratu, trus dia membayangkan ditemuin si Queen of Heaven ???
Trus macem2 juga yang ada di buku itu yang bikin gue dapet kesan begitu.... :(
Jadinya gue gak mau baca buku ke-4nya deh, walaupun udah punya :(
hansel
16-04-2001, 10:14 PM
Kalo gue bilang sich Anne Rice itu comercial banget dgn mematahkan myths ttg vampires tsb. soalnya ada kesan doski tuh berusaha mengimmortalkan her creatures. Lagian berbeda dgn "Dracula"-nya Bram Stoker, nurut gue Vampire chronicles-nya Anne Rice itu absurd & pointless.
bintangkecil
17-04-2001, 07:12 PM
yang lu maksud the queen of the damned ya liz.. gue udah lupa2 ceritanya sih. gue bacanya dari taon 95 kali..
yah sebenarnya sih emang anne rice purely commerciallah ceritanya. namanya pengarang. kayak stephen king aja.
tapi gue gak menangkap kesan dia anti crist tuh...
liz mungkin lu perlu baca mennoch the devil.. mungkin kesan yang ditangkap karena karakter2 dia 'membangkang' terhadap Tuhan ya?
di salah satu bukunya a tale of the body thief ya kalo gak salah.. itu ada scene antara lestat dan david (aduh! gue lupa jelasnya) tentang gimana david ini mendengar percakapan antara iblis dan Tuhan. dari sana gue menangkap kalo anne rice ini sebenarnya religius banget. kan kita gak bisa menilai cuman dari bukunya.
seperti kahlil gibran yang religius tapi banyak protes ke gereja. membangkang. toh, dia semakin mencinta Tuhan. dia cuman protes mentalitas gereja. bukan Tuhannya. jadi manusia2nya aja. gitu.. dan barangkali malah lebih beriman dibanding orang beragama. banyak yang beragama tapi gak beriman katanya...:)
eniwei.. ya anne rice emang sekedar novellah. jadi bukan masalah pointless atau apaan. sama aja dengan karya2 sastra lainnya. sekedar pengen tau aja, kenapa sampe ada mitos2 tentang bawang dan segala macam itu...
eLiZa
17-04-2001, 09:54 PM
Iya, yang gue maksud Queen of the damned
Kalo The tale of the body thief gue punya, tapi belon baca.
Males...;p
Eh, kok jdi ngomongin si Anne Rice...
Udah cukup ah, nasinya ;p
Balik ke mitos...
Iya napa sih kok dibilang takut bawang? ;(
Olivier
17-04-2001, 11:08 PM
Alucard, dracula terkece yang pernah gue lihat.....kalo draculanya cakep kaya gitu, ceweq mana yang engga mau?? ^-^
bintangkecil
18-04-2001, 10:22 AM
tapi emang sih dari mitosnya prince of darkness ini pada cakep2. kata temen gue yang setengah dukun, mungkin karena mau nunjukkin bahwa iblis itu seperti malaikat juga. keren2 gitu..:D
nanti deh gue search site vampire itu.. liat info2nya...
ps. emang alucard itu tampangnya kayak gimane? pasang donk fotonya.. kali2:D
nutty
18-04-2001, 05:05 PM
kayak bradd pitt? cruise? eh yg mo maen jadi akasha (the queen) katanya sih aliyah...hehehe
kali vampir gak suka bawang krn bikin mulut bau, nggak charming lagi dong :D:D
hansel
18-04-2001, 09:06 PM
Gue juga gak suka bawang =(
Gue bisa memahami betapa bencinya para vampires 'ma bawang
eLiZa
18-04-2001, 09:30 PM
bawang merah apa bawang putih?? :o
Putih yach, yang ditakutin drakula? ;(
Kalo bawang bombay enak lho :D:D
hansel
18-04-2001, 09:32 PM
Segala macam bawang =(
eLiZa
18-04-2001, 09:41 PM
ooooo
Ya udah, berarti elo golongan vampire yach 8O ::devil:: :D:D
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