Old Style English, yes?

[Ajipon]

I doth wonder if thou shall be interested in trying to attempth to speak the Old Style English? T'is be a magnanimous feat to do, 'for none hath spoken such words for years hath passeth. Mayhaps t'is be the place for thee to speaketh like an intoxicated ape, thus making absolutely no sense whatsoever!

[serenity]

thy thy thy..ha ha ha gue cuman tau itu doank!

[Demon Lover]

Thou shalt not ....

I love none but thee...

itu aja yang pernah gue denger..nonton shakespeare's aja binun kok... :D :D :D

[hansel]

Ay I doth agree with thee :D

[carminaburana]

what kind of language is it ? shakespeare or "bible" language ? ::bingung::
[diedit oleh carminaburana, 09-05-2001, 04:13 AM]

[serenity]

kayaknya old style english orang irish atau scotland perhaps? masih pakai ya?

[Ajipon]

Thou hath posed one good question. Mine thought comprehend not of what t'is be, as thee might have been informeth, I am thus an intoxicated ape.

[juju^loverz]

ajipon..
mo nanya degh...
dulu pas taun taun terakhir gue di ilp ..guru gue dari scotland ngajarin "old english " itu..(padahal sebenernya
gak boleh diajarin)
kayanya masih ada yg pake di somewhere.. pokoke di scotland..
bahkan ada di scotland yg mecahin rekor nama kota terpanjang di dunia..

dari accent, bahasa, dll.. mirip mrirp old english language gitu...
do u know daerah mana gak tugh ??

whereas apa yg dia ajarin.. wagh.. lupa semua gue..
bahkan puisi-puisi assignment gue itu pas gue baca lagi.. gue bingung artinya apaan...

huehehehehee :D:D:D

[Ryuu Majin]

AAARRRGHHH!! I CAN'T HANDLE OLD STYLE. GOTTA CHANGE!!!

[SeLiNaKYLe]

gue baru nonton BraveHeart, inggrisnya termasuk old english nggak? liuer euy ;(

[AMovieBuff]

Thou shalt not be blessed by thy Lord if thou know ...wahh. i can't continue this, it's os hard. exciting and great to learn further, though:)

[aisyah248]

Ok kalo ada yg salah harap dikoreksi ya. :D

I know not how to speaketh or write in such old style. But tis ne'er too late to learn. :D Thou has brought up a great subject, but why hath thou called thyself an intoxicated ape? 'tis a sad thing indeed if thou thinketh thee an ape for knowing words that has doth been forgotten. And for an ape, thy words is not without sense. :P

hehe susah juga ya tulis in the old style.

[hansel]

Be it old, be it new, methink it should be speaketh clearly, lest ye be misunderstood

[sLimsaDe]

And there was gone, and there was evermore
And there was wherefore hast thou
And what heretofore
but not for evermore

O Lord, went away
O Lord, wellaway
O Lord, that ye may keep her warm
requiescat

A sorrow borne, and borne for evermore
a sorrow borne with a howl
Thou'll come no more
No more for evermore

[Ajipon]

Unfortunately, there be no authority to preside over the matter of whether our manner of speak be indeed correct. I doth puzzled over it myself.

Nay, pay not any attention to mine slurred speech about an ape. Thou be wise to not spend time to think of it. Be it left alone.

But mayhaps it be to the interest of us if thou shalt know of some helpful 'hints' of this manner of speech.

are=art
is=be
you=thee/thou
(ex. It's for you=It be for thee/You're ignorant=Thou art ignorant)
your=thy
my=mine
shall=shalt
will=wilt
so,=thus,
(ex: so, you should do it=thus, thou should do it)
do=doth (??? not sure)
hint: use obnoxious vocabulary

Pray, ladies/sir, correct me if thou find me in err. Thus also, it be wise if thou can enlighten us more of this manner of speech.
[diedit oleh Ajipon, 11-05-2001, 02:00 PM]

[ce~plos]

susye akhhhhh

[aisyah248]

i have not pondered on thou's comment about being an intoxicated ape for far longer than I should. Tis was just a simple question for a man that speaketh in a language many of us hath forgotten. A language that I doth love to read aloud. And it saddens me to say that I know not much about obnoxious vocabulary, my regular one is limited as it is.

But please....I pray thou will allow thyself to become a sort of teacher for the many of us that knoweth little about this language in question. I await thy's 'helpful hints' with equanimity.


::ihiks:: susah juga. hehe

[hansel]

But sometimes we speakest of 'do' as 'doest'. Indeed 'tis such a puzzle!

[kapzil]

anon anon.. :D
My only love, sprung from my only hate!
Too early seen unknown, and known too late!
Prodigiour birth of love it is to me
That I must love a loathed enemy
--Juliet--
we're readin' romeo n juliet in my english class right now.. :D

[Ajipon]

I fear, m'lady, that it be far for this humble man to be of any assistance to the feat of this speech mastery. Thy words flatter me, but the truth naught be hidden. Mine abilities allow me not to educate anyone. Shalt not we learn of this manner of speech together? Little hints art what I offer, and e'en those be certain not.

Mayhaps one could start with rearrangements of grammar? T'is be a convoluted thing to try, but doth try nevertheless.

[aisyah248]

M'gracious lord. Thou's humility humbles me. I mean not to put thee in the position of educator, but I doth hope thou would share thy's knowledge to the many of us that dost not possess it. If thou can giveth only hints, that there tis more than enough. And learneth this language together we shall.

Tis of no matter to me how convoluted the effort may be. I doth love a challenge. :D:)

So...how dost thou suppose we go about "rearranging our grammar"?

[techno_man]

I praise to thee :)

Thine be the glory, risen, conquering Son, endless is the victory thou o'er death hast won.

[hansel]

Originally posted by tech_man
I praise to thee :)

Thine be the glory, risen, conquering Son, endless is the victory thou o'er death hast won.

'Tis the very words of the hymn we sangeth this e'en

[techno_man]

Hansel, itu maksudnya apa, maklum kurang ngerti, itupun kata kata yang gue dapat dari Hymn di skolah gue dulu.

[hansel]

It means we sang that hymn yesterevening

[techno_man]

Ic, itu judulnya pasti A'Toi La Gloire O Ressuscite.

[hansel]

Methink the hymn is "Thine Be the Glory" called

[techno_man]

Ngak kok, Sel.

Gue jelas jelas lihat title nya di semacam booklet skolah gue dulu, gue simpen.

[Ajipon]

Alas, I comprehend little of grammar rearrangement. Explanation be a futile attempt. But doth bear with me as I shalt make use of examples.

- I can not speak this kind of English
* T'is manner of speech I canst speak
- He's talking like a drunk Yoda
* An intoxicated Yoda he be talking like

Pray forgive me for mine silly examples.

[aisyah248]

Dear dear lord. Thou hast brought up a creature intoxicated yet again. hehe Tis a Yoda today. hehe Forgive me for I cannot prevent m'self from laugh'n at such a thought. hehe :D

I thank thee for thy hints again. Have thou dost anymore?
And pardon me for asking as to where hath thou learneth to write in this manner? Thy place of learning perhaps? Or didst thou learn this by thyself?

Salah banyak ya gue? hehe

[techno_man]

Originally posted by Ajipon
Pray forgive me for mine silly examples.


Ha ha ha ha :D.

[hansel]

Indeed the title is called "Thine Be the Glory". I know not how the French should speak of it.

[Ryuu Majin]

WHAAAA!!! I CAN'T GET IT!!! NUFF!!!

[ce~plos]

set dahhhh.......formal amitttttt

[chiquita]

Gue juga pusing bacanya, tapi asik.
Ajipon, by any chance is there any website about old english? ::bingung::

[dark poetry]

Originally posted by Ajipon
Alas, I comprehend little of grammar rearrangement. Explanation be a futile attempt. But doth bear with me as I shalt make use of examples.

- I can not speak this kind of English
* T'is manner of speech I canst speak
- He's talking like a drunk Yoda
* An intoxicated Yoda he be talking like

Pray forgive me for mine silly examples.


ajipon asli luh! kacau bener...ha ha ha :D

[techno_man]

Betul, emang lucu :D.

[dizzy]

prithee, o my lord...... such ancient language is spoken here ;D ... I like Shakespeare not.... but I shalt attempt to speak his language here...methinks 'tis indeed very interesting...

Here, I have with me a very ancient poem, even far more ancient than those of Shakespeare:


Edward

"Why dois your brand sae drap wi bluid,
Edward, Edward?
Why dois your brand sae drap wi bluid,
And why sae sad gang yee O?"
"O I hae killed my hauke sae guild,
Mither, mither,
O I hae killed my hauke sae guild,
And I had nae mair bot hee O."

"Your haukis bluid was nevir sae reid,
Edward, Edward,
Your haukis bluid was nevir sae reid,
My dear son I tell thee O."
"O I hae killed my reid-roan steid,
Mither, mither,
O I hae killed my reid-roan steid,
That erst was sae fair and frie O."

"Your steid was auld and ye hae gat mair,
Edward, Edward,
Your steid was auld and ye hae gat mair,
Sum other dule ye drie O."
"O I hae killed my fadir deir,
Mither, mither,
O I hae killed my fadir deir,
Alas, and wae is mee O!"

"And whatten penance wul ye drie for that,
Edward, Edward?
And whatten penance wul ye drie for that,
My deir son, now tell me O."
"Ile set my feit in ypnder boat,
Mither,mither,
Ile set my feit in ypnder boat,
And Ile fare ovir the sea O."

"And what wul ye doe wi your towirs and your ha,
Edward,Edward,
And what wul ye doe wi your towirs and your ha,
That were sae fair to see O?"
"Ile let thame stand tul they doun fa,
Mither,mither,
Ile let thame stand tul they doun fa,
For here nevir mair maun I bee O."

"And what wul ye leive to your bairns and your wife,
Edward, Edward?
And what wul ye leive to your bairns and your wife,
Whan ye gang ovir the sea O?"
"The warldis room, late them beg thrae life,
For thame never mair wul I see O."

"And what wul ye leive to your ain meither deir,
Edward,Edward?
And what wul ye leive to your ain meither deir?
My deir son, now tell me O."
"The curse of hell frae me sall ye beir,
Mither,mither,
The curse of hell frae me sall ye beir,
Sic counseils ye gave to me O."

----------End----------------------

Well please read it and give me your opinion about it....
Thou, I might have made some mistakes with the punctuations.... but as far as the speeling goes, I'm pretty sure I typed all of them correctly....;D
Anybody understand it well???

My English teacher once told me that Shakespearean language is considered as "Modern English" not "Ancient"...
Then she said something in "Old English", which to me, sounded more like a French, but not exactly French, if you know what I mean (well, since I know French a little) .... ;D.....I didn't understand it at all... It sounded more like a different language rather than English ;D.... with very srong "r" sound.....

Hope you'll like the "Edward" poem above... it took me so long to type all of those weird words ;D....

[Capunk]

I hath come!:D:D:D
I shall rule thy!
Thy shall be conquered

[trulygirl]

;0::bingung::

[techno_man]

Yang di post Dizzy gue banyak yang ngak ngerti ::bingung::.

[dizzy]

gue dulu juga nggak ngerti... sama guru gue disuruh translate-in langsung, tapi gue buatnya diklas aja, jadi pas dia ngoongin translationnya line per line, gue sambilan nyatet... ehehhe ;D

kalo ada yg tertarik nanti gue tulis translationnya....bagus juga loh, kalo udah diartiin....:D:D

[hansel]

Yg dipostin si Dizzy itu bukan cuman old style English but Old English kali ya? Kalo Old English mah org British sendiri juga pada gak tau soalnya lebih mirip German daripada Modern English.
Old style English yg dimaksud di topic ini tuh kayaknya lebih ke Middle English deh!

[techno_man]

Dizzy, translate yach.

[dizzy]

iya pokoqnya gitu deh... yg udah lama2 bangettt... tapi shakespearean termasuk modern english loh.... :D itu sih kata guru inggris gue...
ok besok dech... soalnya hari ini terburu2 ... :D

[techno_man]

Oke, no problem :).

Anytime you can :).

[Ajipon]

Pray forgive me for mine lack of response to t'is conversation. T'is be the time 'fore the sun rises, and for thine knowledge, sleep be evading me.

Alas, none taught me of this manner of speech, thus none told me of the proper way to do so. Nary doth mine speech be true of form. Nay, only thine ignorance saveth me from mine idiocy. E'en if it be intoxication that compels me in such frivolity, thou yet doth listen to such a nincompoop as I. Flattery doth I receive from thine generosity. :D :D

As I read what I hath thus saith, I feel it be proper for me to express mine thought in another way.

"Gua mau ngomong sembarangan juga siapa yang tahu salah atau bener? :D"

[aisyah248]

::luthu:: nincompoop ::luthu::

thy words art dost funny. maketh me laugh so. ;p
i doth know that thou hath considereth all this to be just mere folly. Thy feelings art mutual. But I have to say that I love so reading such words of capriciousness. Tis make my heart filled with joy.
A drunketh man that can spit out words such as this, is much more amusing to watch then a drunketh man that just spits? Eh? :D
I daresay drink more man if thou can only speaketh this while intoxicated. ;p

So dost this mean that thou will endeth all this?

[Ajipon]

Nay! T'is be a joy upon me too. Whilst we jest, certainly we can acquire more knowledge in doing so.

If I may give an assistance to this manner of speech, that is, I would recommend for thee to learneth proper modern English first. I find it to be a great help in talking like such. Alas, I canst give proper instructions in proper modern English. Mayhaps t'is better if thou consult with some other.

[clubbing guy]

thou shalth not smoketh inside the room

[Itzume]

Thou shalt not steal from my purse/wallet
while I am in thy bathroom, nor use my credit cards,
nor make long-distance calls from my telephone.
;p;p;p:D

[morningdew]

gue pengen ikutan ngomong tapi udah lupa semua. waktu kecil sempet dijarin padahal :(

[Itzume]

morningdew waktu kecilnya belajarnya ginian??;0 sekecil brapa ya?..;(

[morningdew]

elementary school :)

[Itzume]

oooo lama juga:)...kalo itzu cuman di high school doank;)

[morningdew]

iya, makanya sekarang udah lupa :D are you in England?

[Itzume]

Are you?? [prof]...no wonder:D:D;p
No, i happen to be in Canada with its uugggeelly accent, eh? ::nangis:: ^^;

[D0SA]

Originally posted by morningdew
gue pengen ikutan ngomong tapi udah lupa semua. waktu kecil sempet dijarin padahal :(

.. the year was 1605 .. :D:D:D

[morningdew]

...and you were my teacher..:D

[D0SA]

naturally .. :D:D:D

[morningdew]

..indeed..

[D0SA]

so how's my pupil doing today? :D:D:D

[morningdew]

hello, teacher. i'm doin' just fine :D

[hansel]

Originally posted by D0SA
Originally posted by morningdew
gue pengen ikutan ngomong tapi udah lupa semua. waktu kecil sempet dijarin padahal :(

.. the year was 1605 .. :D:D:D

;0 that was 2 years before Susan Constant sailed to Virginia & the crew met Tora...eh, Pocahontas there :o
All in all both the teacher & the pupil & Tora are uzur by now :D

[morningdew]

hanseeeeeeeeeeeeeeellll!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

[Evangeline]

aye how fort art thou? @.@