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[yukiyuki]

Werner Herzog also on Film School

"I personally don't believe in the kind of film schools you find all over the world today. I never worked as another filmmaker's assistant and I never had any formal training. My early films come from my very deepest commitment to what I was doing, what I felt I had no choice but to do, and as such they are totally unconnected to what was going on at the film schools - and cinemas - of the time. It's my strong autodidactic streak and my faith in my own work that have kept me going for more than forty years.

"A pianist is made in childhood, a filmmaker at any age. I say this only because physically, in order to play the piano well, the body needs to be conditioned from a very early age. Real musicians have an innate feel for all music and all instruments, something that can be instilled only at an early age. Of course it's possible to learn to play the piano as an adult, but the intuitive qualities needed just won't be there. As a young filmmaker I just read in an encyclopedia the fifteen or so pages on filmmaking. Everything I needed to get myself started came from this book. It has always seemed to me that almost everything you are forced to learn at school you forget in a couple of years. But the things you set out to learn yourself in order to quench a thirst, these are things you never forget. It was a vital early lesson for me, realising that the knowledge gleaned from a book will suffice for the first week on the set, which is all the time needed to learn everything you need to know as a filmmaker. To this very day the technical knowledge I have is relatively rudimentary. But if there are things that seem too complicated, experiment; if you still can't master them, hire a technician.

"Filmmaking is a more vulnerable journey than most other creative ventures. When you are a sculptor you have only one obstacle - a lump of rock - which you chisel away on. But filmmaking involves organisation and money and technology, things like that. You might get the best shot of your life but if the lab mixes the developing solution wrongly then your shot is gone forever. You can build a ship, cast 5000 extras and plan a scene with your leading actors, and in the morning one of them has a stomach ache and can't go on set. These things happen, everything is interwoven and interlinked, and if one element doesn't function properly then the whole venture is prone to collapse. Filmmakers should be taught about how things will go wrong, about how to deal with these problems, how to handle a crew that is getting out of hand, how to handle a producing partner who won't pay up or a distributor who won't advertise properly, things like this. People who keep moaning about these kinds of problems aren't really suited for this line of business.

"And, vitally, aspiring filmmakers have to be taught that sometimes the only way of overcoming problems involves real physicality. Many great filmmakers have been astonishingly physical, athletic people. A much higher percentage than writers or musicians. Actually, for some time now I have given some thought to opening a film school. But if I did start one up you would only be allowed to fill out an application form after you have walked alone on foot, let's say from Madrid to Kiev, a distance of about five thousand kilometres. While walking, write. Write about your experiences and give me your notebooks. I would be able to tell who had really walked the distance and who had not. While you are walking you would learn much more about filmmaking and what it truly involves than you ever would sitting in a classroom. During your voyage you will learn more about what your future holds than in five years at film school. Your experiences would be the very opposite of academic knowledge, for academia is the death of cinema. It is the very opposite of passion."

[franz_ferdinand]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh yukiyuki

ih gue nunggu banget loh kapan TCM alias Turner Classic Movie channel merambah tv berlangganan, itulah saat gue bakal daftar deh.

Ini bukannya ada yah di Kabelvision ?
Kalo gak salah.

[Homer]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh yukiyuki

Werner Herzog also on Film School

"I personally don't believe in the kind of film schools you find all over the world today. I never worked as another filmmaker's assistant and I never had any formal training. My early films come from my very deepest commitment to what I was doing, what I felt I had no choice but to do, and as such they are totally unconnected to what was going on at the film schools - and cinemas - of the time. It's my strong autodidactic streak and my faith in my own work that have kept me going for more than forty years.

"A pianist is made in childhood, a filmmaker at any age. I say this only because physically, in order to play the piano well, the body needs to be conditioned from a very early age. Real musicians have an innate feel for all music and all instruments, something that can be instilled only at an early age. Of course it's possible to learn to play the piano as an adult, but the intuitive qualities needed just won't be there. As a young filmmaker I just read in an encyclopedia the fifteen or so pages on filmmaking. Everything I needed to get myself started came from this book. It has always seemed to me that almost everything you are forced to learn at school you forget in a couple of years. But the things you set out to learn yourself in order to quench a thirst, these are things you never forget. It was a vital early lesson for me, realising that the knowledge gleaned from a book will suffice for the first week on the set, which is all the time needed to learn everything you need to know as a filmmaker. To this very day the technical knowledge I have is relatively rudimentary. But if there are things that seem too complicated, experiment; if you still can't master them, hire a technician.

"Filmmaking is a more vulnerable journey than most other creative ventures. When you are a sculptor you have only one obstacle - a lump of rock - which you chisel away on. But filmmaking involves organisation and money and technology, things like that. You might get the best shot of your life but if the lab mixes the developing solution wrongly then your shot is gone forever. You can build a ship, cast 5000 extras and plan a scene with your leading actors, and in the morning one of them has a stomach ache and can't go on set. These things happen, everything is interwoven and interlinked, and if one element doesn't function properly then the whole venture is prone to collapse. Filmmakers should be taught about how things will go wrong, about how to deal with these problems, how to handle a crew that is getting out of hand, how to handle a producing partner who won't pay up or a distributor who won't advertise properly, things like this. People who keep moaning about these kinds of problems aren't really suited for this line of business.

"And, vitally, aspiring filmmakers have to be taught that sometimes the only way of overcoming problems involves real physicality. Many great filmmakers have been astonishingly physical, athletic people. A much higher percentage than writers or musicians. Actually, for some time now I have given some thought to opening a film school. But if I did start one up you would only be allowed to fill out an application form after you have walked alone on foot, let's say from Madrid to Kiev, a distance of about five thousand kilometres. While walking, write. Write about your experiences and give me your notebooks. I would be able to tell who had really walked the distance and who had not. While you are walking you would learn much more about filmmaking and what it truly involves than you ever would sitting in a classroom. During your voyage you will learn more about what your future holds than in five years at film school. Your experiences would be the very opposite of academic knowledge, for academia is the death of cinema. It is the very opposite of passion."

gak perduli loe lulusan sekolah film atau cuma otodidak, coz whatever works is right

[LIZER]

Jadi ingat Art School Confidential.

Tapi zaman sekarang di Perguruan tinggi/ akademi yang bertaraf Internasional memang diterapkan sistem belajar mandiri, kan? Jurusan apapun. Dosen bukan lagi satu-satunya pemberi ilmu tapi lebih ke arah fasilitator/ mentor. Mahasiswanya yang harus lebih kreatif & sudah punya dasar, bakat, serta minat yang tinggi terhadap bidang yang dipilihnya.

Begitupula sekolah film, yang cuma jadi fasilitas pengembang bakat sekaligus nambah temen untuk tuker2an inspirasi/ ide, berbagi ilmu, serta nambah koneksi orang2 di industri perfilman untuk 'jual diri'. Itu kalo otak bisnisnya jalan. Belajar teknik bukannya bisa belajar sendiri?

[lachrymologist]

ee... gw dah nonton remakenya, emang bener shot by shot ya? soalnya ending jg ga hollywood kok

Sebelumnya diposting oleh keysersoze19

gw taro disini aja ya drpada buat thread baru. filmnya jg msh maret taun dpn

eniwei, ada yg mau ngomentarin remake film ini?



wong udh masterpiece kok msh diremake jg yaaaaaaaa remake almost shot by shot lg ktnya. what's the point geto loh?

ato mgkn michael haneke pengen jd kyk george sluizer

[LIZER]

Gile... resurected from the dead.

Sorry, a brainless post.

[yukiyuki]

Dumbo (Ben Sharpsteen, 1941)



8/10

To sum it up, I went into viewing Dumbo with a bit of a cynical attitude. I ended the film feeling deeply moved by the whole experience . . . and I'll admit that it made me want to go give my mom a big hug afterwards. As I said earlier, I feel horrible for having ignored this little jewel for so long. It's a brief, but very satisfying movie that works on all levels. Its definitely found its place near the top of my 10 favorite animated classics.

Semua yang ada di film ini lebih sederhana dari 3 film animasi Disney yang dirilis sebelumnya. Cerita inti dari Dumbo berkisar di seputar seekor gajah kecil yang tidak diterima oleh gajah-gajah senior dalam suatu sirkus. Terlebih lagi setelah ibu Dumbo dikerangkeng karna "outraged" setelah mencoba melindungi Dumbo dari anak-anak usil. The little Dumbo is dying to reunite with his mother. Film ini cocok ditonton oleh seluruh anggota keluarga, karna banyak pesan moral yang menggugah hati terutama untuk anak-anak. Love thy mother and family, jangan pilih2 teman (even the racial issue drawn visibly here), gapai cita2mu melewati semua rintangan, dan terakhir yakin kalo diri kamu emang spesial.

Animasi dan background dalam film ini bisa dibilang lebih mundur dalam hal detail dibanding Snow White, Pinocchio atau Fantasia. But I think that's a big part of its charm - it does have a resonance with a child's uncluttered mind and is realized without any complications.

There are many touching moments - specifically a heartbreaking scene where Dumbo goes to visit his caged mother. The emotion from these parts is so admirable, as there is no dialogue. It's just power coming from the pure animation. I found it astounding.

There's an incredibly abstract, bizarre segment called "Pink Elephants on Parade" that made my jaw drop. Banyak yang bilang segment ini dibuat oleh German's great animator Oskar Fischinger (which some of his films I adore very much) just like Fantasia. Truly one of the best movie sequence in cinema history. Walau rada merusak alur sederhana film ini, tapi siapa yang bisa nyalahin, karna it's really such an incredible piece to watch.

[inertia]

I love Dumbo!!
Betul, meskipun tanpa dialog dan sebatas mengolah ekspresi si anak & ibunya, adegan caged mother itu memang truly, emotionally, one of the most heart wrenching ever. Trenyuh, karena persis seperti yg dirasakan Dumbo, we too are powerless to help the kind, caring, poor mother elephant from dying... menyentuh karena disitu terjalin kaitan emosi antara kita dan si tokoh utama, in that we actually root for little Dumbo and want him to pull through and just to be happy like always... boleh jadi karena adegan diatas Dumbo bukan animasi Disney yang bisa saya tonton ulang2 seperti Jungle Book, Pinocchio atau girlie Cinderella pun... kasusnya hampir mirip sih dgn animasi Grave of the Fireflies; agak wanti2 setiap mau nonton specifically krn tone-nya yg rada somber itu... ini enggak bermaksud mendiskredikan filmnya tapi lebih ke gimana saya sebagai penonton (waktu itu masih cah cilik gemblung) dealing dengan tema2 yg saya kurang gitu familiar. In fact it makes me depressed just thinking about it. I agree however, that it IS a great piece of cinema and I'd give Dumbo the highest, elephantine recommendation: 10/10.

[RedSharkz]

ah Dumbo. gw ga pernah mau ntn ulang film ini karena moodnya ga enak. Tapi dengan begitu berarti film ini sukses.

[yukiyuki]

thx for Bang Inert n Bang Redsharkz for the endorsementnya buat Dumbo juga...

Eh iya ada yang udah kelarin Six Moral Tales-nya Erich Rohmer???

[cloudrider`]

banyak info mantab di sini. koleksi dvdnya juga baru liat... salut deh!

[KulaShaker]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh yukiyuki

Dumbo (Ben Sharpsteen, 1941)



8/10

To sum it up, I went into viewing Dumbo with a bit of a cynical attitude. I ended the film feeling deeply moved by the whole experience . . . and I'll admit that it made me want to go give my mom a big hug afterwards. As I said earlier, I feel horrible for having ignored this little jewel for so long. It's a brief, but very satisfying movie that works on all levels. Its definitely found its place near the top of my 10 favorite animated classics.

Semua yang ada di film ini lebih sederhana dari 3 film animasi Disney yang dirilis sebelumnya. Cerita inti dari Dumbo berkisar di seputar seekor gajah kecil yang tidak diterima oleh gajah-gajah senior dalam suatu sirkus. Terlebih lagi setelah ibu Dumbo dikerangkeng karna "outraged" setelah mencoba melindungi Dumbo dari anak-anak usil. The little Dumbo is dying to reunite with his mother. Film ini cocok ditonton oleh seluruh anggota keluarga, karna banyak pesan moral yang menggugah hati terutama untuk anak-anak. Love thy mother and family, jangan pilih2 teman (even the racial issue drawn visibly here), gapai cita2mu melewati semua rintangan, dan terakhir yakin kalo diri kamu emang spesial.

Animasi dan background dalam film ini bisa dibilang lebih mundur dalam hal detail dibanding Snow White, Pinocchio atau Fantasia. But I think that's a big part of its charm - it does have a resonance with a child's uncluttered mind and is realized without any complications.

There are many touching moments - specifically a heartbreaking scene where Dumbo goes to visit his caged mother. The emotion from these parts is so admirable, as there is no dialogue. It's just power coming from the pure animation. I found it astounding.

There's an incredibly abstract, bizarre segment called "Pink Elephants on Parade" that made my jaw drop. Banyak yang bilang segment ini dibuat oleh German's great animator Oskar Fischinger (which some of his films I adore very much) just like Fantasia. Truly one of the best movie sequence in cinema history. Walau rada merusak alur sederhana film ini, tapi siapa yang bisa nyalahin, karna it's really such an incredible piece to watch.

dimana saya bisa dapet kopi-an Dumbo? tolong, soalnya desperate banget nyari nya sekarng

[Homer]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh KulaShaker

dimana saya bisa dapet kopi-an Dumbo? tolong, soalnya desperate banget nyari nya sekarng

setau gw vcd/dvdnya dikeluarin sama vision.
coba contact aja

[yukiyuki]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh KulaShaker

dimana saya bisa dapet kopi-an Dumbo? tolong, soalnya desperate banget nyari nya sekarng

yah mentog2nya cari di glodok atau mg2, atau seller di forum jual beli kalo ga ada....tapi vision itu banyak kok ngerilis dvd animasi disney. Dari snow white, pinocchio, bambi, gue pernah liat...

[yukiyuki]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh cloudrider`

banyak info mantab di sini. koleksi dvdnya juga baru liat... salut deh!

welcome to this "pervert" club

[yukiyuki]

Maynila: Sa mga kuko ng liwanag (Lino Brocka, Philippines, 1979 (***1/2 of ****





God bless Derek Malcolm of Time Out UK. Pertama denger film ini dari dia. It deserves with every bit of hype surrounds it. Bagaimana Brocka menggambarkan orang miskin dari kampung masuk kota yang begitu naif, bisa hidup hanya dengan passion of love begitu menyentuh, nyata, dan thought provoking. Julio karakter utamanya datang ke Manila dengan harapan bisa bertemu kekasihnya yang sekampung halaman. Cuma membawa uang sedikit profesi yang bisa dia kerjakan mulai dari kuli bangunan sampai jadi call boy dia jabanin. Well, karena miskin, pilihannya terbatas jadi dia tidak enjoy dengan pekerjaannya. Sukses lah Brocka dalam menampilkan keras, kejam, sadis, matrenya hidup di kota besar...It's a gem that I'd really like other people to see. Ok next it will be films of Ishmael Bernal, Brocka's Insiang, Mike de Leon and Martin Raya.

[Homer]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh yukiyuki

God bless Derek Malcolm of Time Out UK. Pertama denger film ini dari dia. It deserves with every bit of hype surrounds it. Bagaimana Brocka menggambarkan orang miskin dari kampung masuk kota yang begitu naif, bisa hidup hanya dengan passion of love begitu menyentuh, nyata, dan thought provoking. Julio karakter utamanya datang ke Manila dengan harapan bisa bertemu kekasihnya yang sekampung halaman. Cuma membawa uang sedikit profesi yang bisa dia kerjakan mulai dari kuli bangunan sampai jadi call boy dia jabanin. Well, karena miskin, pilihannya terbatas jadi dia tidak enjoy dengan pekerjaannya. Sukses lah Brocka dalam menampilkan keras, kejam, sadis, matrenya hidup di kota besar...It's a gem that I'd really like other people to see. Ok next it will be films of Ishmael Bernal, Brocka's Insiang, Mike de Leon and Martin Raya.

ini kayaknya masuk 1000 movies, must watch before you die.

[Bad-13]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh yukiyuki

Dumbo (Ben Sharpsteen, 1941)



8/10

To sum it up, I went into viewing Dumbo with a bit of a cynical attitude. I ended the film feeling deeply moved by the whole experience . . . and I'll admit that it made me want to go give my mom a big hug afterwards. As I said earlier, I feel horrible for having ignored this little jewel for so long. It's a brief, but very satisfying movie that works on all levels. Its definitely found its place near the top of my 10 favorite animated classics.

Semua yang ada di film ini lebih sederhana dari 3 film animasi Disney yang dirilis sebelumnya. Cerita inti dari Dumbo berkisar di seputar seekor gajah kecil yang tidak diterima oleh gajah-gajah senior dalam suatu sirkus. Terlebih lagi setelah ibu Dumbo dikerangkeng karna "outraged" setelah mencoba melindungi Dumbo dari anak-anak usil. The little Dumbo is dying to reunite with his mother. Film ini cocok ditonton oleh seluruh anggota keluarga, karna banyak pesan moral yang menggugah hati terutama untuk anak-anak. Love thy mother and family, jangan pilih2 teman (even the racial issue drawn visibly here), gapai cita2mu melewati semua rintangan, dan terakhir yakin kalo diri kamu emang spesial.

Animasi dan background dalam film ini bisa dibilang lebih mundur dalam hal detail dibanding Snow White, Pinocchio atau Fantasia. But I think that's a big part of its charm - it does have a resonance with a child's uncluttered mind and is realized without any complications.

There are many touching moments - specifically a heartbreaking scene where Dumbo goes to visit his caged mother. The emotion from these parts is so admirable, as there is no dialogue. It's just power coming from the pure animation. I found it astounding.

There's an incredibly abstract, bizarre segment called "Pink Elephants on Parade" that made my jaw drop. Banyak yang bilang segment ini dibuat oleh German's great animator Oskar Fischinger (which some of his films I adore very much) just like Fantasia. Truly one of the best movie sequence in cinema history. Walau rada merusak alur sederhana film ini, tapi siapa yang bisa nyalahin, karna it's really such an incredible piece to watch.

DUMBO, baca review ente aja dah bikin ane merinding, jadi pengen nonton lage.....

[Skywalker]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh KulaShaker

dimana saya bisa dapet kopi-an Dumbo? tolong, soalnya desperate banget nyari nya sekarng

bisa donlot ngga? banyak ko kalo bisa... Ini cuma salah satunya

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[yukiyuki]

Sebelumnya diposting oleh Homer

ini kayaknya masuk 1000 movies, must watch before you die.

iya, tapi tau awalnya dari list si Malcolm.